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Gene Study Identifies 5 Main Human Populations
New York Times ^ | 12-20-02 | Nicholas Wade

Posted on 12/21/2002 3:54:34 AM PST by Pharmboy

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"Sociologists don't have the competence to go there," he said.

'Scooze me, they don't have the competence to go anywhere.

Hmmm. So all these years our senses have been right and the PC police who wanted to deny reality were wrong.

Surprising that the NY Effin' Times didn't ignore this one...

1 posted on 12/21/2002 3:54:34 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Ping
2 posted on 12/21/2002 3:55:54 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Ping. Research as un-PC as "The Bell Curve."

[This ping list for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. If you want to be included, or dropped, let me know.]

3 posted on 12/21/2002 3:58:59 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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Please add me to your ping list--thanks.
4 posted on 12/21/2002 4:03:16 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Dr. Feldman said the finding essentially confirmed the popular conception of race. He said precautions should be taken to make sure the new data coming out of genetic studies were not abused.
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The new medical interest in race and genetics has left many sociologists and anthropologists beating a different drum in their assertions that race is a cultural idea, not a biological one. The American Sociological Association, for instance, said in a recent statement that "race is a social construct" and warned of the "danger of contributing to the popular conception of race as biological."
Poor Dr. Feldman. He's gonna be demonized for sure.
5 posted on 12/21/2002 4:03:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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Done.
6 posted on 12/21/2002 4:06:37 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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Carlton Coon
1904 -1981
Carlton Steven Coon was born June 23,1904 in Wakefield, Massachusetts. He attended post secondary education at Harvard University, where he earned his A.B., A.M., and Ph. D. (Coon, 1962). From 1934 to 1948, Coon taught at Harvard, and later that year became an Professor of Anthropology at the University of Pennsylvania until 1963. He also became Curator of Ethnology at the University Museum in Philadelphia (Coon, 1962). Coon made contributions to both archaeology and to cultural and physical anthropology. He conducted controversial studies of the origins and contemporary variations of human racial types. His areas of study ranged from prehistoric agrarian communities to contemporary tribal societies in the Middle East, Patagonia, and India (Britannica, 2000).

Carleton Coon wrote several books during his lifetime. They include The Origins of Race, The Story of Man, Culture Wars and the Global Village: A Diplomat’s Perspective, The Races of Europe, Races: A study of the Problems of Race Formation in Man, The Hunting Peoples, Living Races of Man, Seven Caves: Archaeological Exploration in the Middle East. Others include his autobiography, Adventures and Discoveries: The Autobiography of Carleton S. Coon, Mountains of Giants: A Racial and Cultural Study of the North Albanian Mountain Ghegs, Yengema Cave Report, and Caravan.

Coon worked with the Air Force in 1956-1957. During World War II, Coon was a member of the United States Office of Strategic Services. He was a member of the National Academy of Science and served as President of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists in 1961-1962 (Academic American Encyclopedia,1995). In 1981, Coon served as the United States Ambassador to Nepal before his death on June 6, 1981, in Gloucester, Massachusetts.

Bibliography

Coon, Carleton S. (1962) . The Origins of Races. New York: Alfred A. Knopf.

Academic American Encyclopedia (vol. 5, p.271) . Danbury, Connecticut: Grolier Incorporated (1995).

Encyclopedia Britannica (1999-2000). Carleton Coon. Retrieved October 12, 2000 from the World Wide Web: http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=26561&tocid=0&query=carlton%20coon
7 posted on 12/21/2002 4:13:40 AM PST by Pharmboy
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8 posted on 12/21/2002 4:17:38 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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A sixth race?
9 posted on 12/21/2002 4:18:37 AM PST by Pharmboy
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[i]that "race is a social construct" and warned of the "danger of contributing to the popular conception of race as biological." [/i] Race is a social construct, and there is danger is the popular concept that race is biological?????

Who knew? I think the social engineers have too much invested in trying to convince people that without them we would degrade into barbarians. Us sheeple need to be guided you know.

10 posted on 12/21/2002 4:27:25 AM PST by Fzob
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The American Sociological Association, for instance, said in a recent statement that "race is a social construct"

I'll be sure to remember that next time I go to Club Med in Guadalupe, near the Equator. While I am having lunch with my new acquaintances, Sven, from Sweden, and Akiri, from Ghana, I'll mention to them to use the exact same suntan lotion, since, the apparent difference in their skin color is actually a social construct.

11 posted on 12/21/2002 4:38:54 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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Very interesting, and surely expected.
To ignore the differences among races is as stupid as seeing only the differences.
If one can only see the possible misuse of information, and as such, wish to deny it's existance...then I guess beyond learning how to hold a spoon and get dressed, I shouldn't teach my kids anything. PC is the lobotomy of mankind and will surely be the downfall of those who continue to espouse that thinking.
12 posted on 12/21/2002 4:39:31 AM PST by visualops
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"...To ignore the differences among races is as stupid as seeing only the differences..."

Amen
13 posted on 12/21/2002 4:44:06 AM PST by error99
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I'll have to second that. Great statement.
14 posted on 12/21/2002 4:54:33 AM PST by mikegi
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Some diseases are much commoner among some ethnic groups than others. Sickle cell anemia is common among Africans, while hemochromatosis, an iron metabolism disorder, occurs in 7.5 percent of Swedes. It can therefore be useful for a doctor to consider a patient's race in diagnosing disease.

DUH alert

However, although sickle cell disease is common in US and UK Blacks, I saw very few cases when I worked in East Africa, mainly because the people lived high up in the mountains where malaria was rare. The only case of Sickle cell disease was in a lady from Malawi whose husband worked at the local mine.

And "Scandanavians" with hemochromatosis is probably true. But Finns are not "scandanavians", but have linguistic and cultural similarities to American Indians. In Minnesota, the Finns and Chippewa got along because of this.

15 posted on 12/21/2002 5:06:29 AM PST by LadyDoc
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Why should they ignore this? People are geographically related. There's a news flash. How do these slight genetic differences constitute justification for the classification of races? Last time I knew the genetic variation between people in the same population was greater than the difference between people in different populations. Has that changed?
16 posted on 12/21/2002 5:17:55 AM PST by mewzilla
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Oh, no!... Now I am confused!

Just the other day we read a report on FR about a team of scientists who discovered that race had no meaning genetically -- now we find out that there really IS such a thing as race?!?!

But seriously, I have a copy of "The History and Geography of Human Genes" by Cavalli-Sforza et al, that I got in 1994, that says pretty definitively what this article says. The book is as big as an unabridged dictionary, with chart after chart and map after map of very rigorous, thoroughly annotated analysis of DNA from thousands of blood samples from all over the world.

Point being, why is this being released as if it were a new insight?

17 posted on 12/21/2002 5:19:03 AM PST by Yeti
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Zoologists would also describe these as sub-species.
18 posted on 12/21/2002 5:39:50 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay
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Stehhen J Gould must be rolling over in his Harvard grave.
19 posted on 12/21/2002 5:43:15 AM PST by bert
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There are many ethnic groups but only one human race. Any sociologist can make any kind of case he wants, that's the attraction of sociology I suppose.

The differences among the ethnic groups are apparent but slowly changing over time as the groups mix. It seems likely to me that within ten or twenty more generations there will be very few distinct ethnic groups as people intermarry.

This is a good thing, I think, because two or three more generations of white-only marriages for my offspring and you'll be able to read through us.

20 posted on 12/21/2002 5:44:58 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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