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Ban Opponents on Recall Warpath (Smoking Ban - Pueblo, CO)
Pueblo Chieftain ^ | 12/19/02 | James Amos

Posted on 12/19/2002 11:45:50 AM PST by Hell to pay

Ban opponents on recall warpath
By JAMES AMOS
The Pueblo Chieftain

Some sported "Put Their Butts Out!" buttons and T-shirts featuring the photographs of four City Council members who voted for the city's new smoking ban.

Others handed out bumper stickers saying "Fix Potholes, Not People!" and "The Sloppers Are Probably More Unhealthy Than Cigarettes, Vote No On Smoking Ordinance!"

Meeting at Peppers Niteclub on Wednesday, an estimated 400-500 people organized their push to overturn the city's new smoking ban and recall the four City Council members who voted for it.

The ban, passed by council Dec. 9, would outlaw smoking in almost any enclosed place open to the public or to which the public is invited. It would apply to bars, restaurants, bingo halls, bowling alleys and stores as well as prohibit smoking outside a building within 20 feet of the door.

The ban goes into effect Jan. 1 unless the group, "Puebloan's For Common Sense In Government", can gather enough petition signatures to stop it.

The group will start gathering signatures for several issues:

- a referendum suspending the smoking ban and forcing a ballot question asking voters if they want the city's old smoking ordinance instead.

- a recall of council President Mike Occhiato and members Bill Sova, Bob Schilling and Ted Lopez Jr..

The referendum petitions could be available as soon as this morning, attorney Joe Losavio told the crowd, which included many bar and restaurant owners. The city has to approve the petition forms.

Doug Carlson takes a puff from his cigarette while he and Irish Pub owner, Ted Calentino, listen during a meeting of people against the city's new no-smoking ordinance held at Peppers Niteclub Wednesday. Carlson and Calentino are members of organizational committees assembled to fight the ordinance.

The recall petitions may be available by Friday, he said.

The group has 30 days from the day the ordinance was approved to force the ballot question on the issue, Losavio said. Puebloan's For Common Sense wants to gather more than the 3,300 signatures needed by the end of the year in order to prevent the ordinance from taking effect at all.

Losavio and attorneys Jim and Joe Koncilja are donating their legal services to the effort.

"This is dictating rather than governing," Losavio said of the ban.

He said Pueblo residents were "blindsided" by the ordinance, which was introduced in a less strict form in October and then changed at the Dec. 9 meeting to include all bars.

Losavio said people would rather that the city spend tax money on anything other than enforcing the ban.

Joe Koncilja said the ban was "without a doubt the dumbest move I've ever seen" and could just lead the city to ban other dangerous things.

"Alcohol is more dangerous than cigarettes, so why not just close you down altogether?" he told the bar owners in the crowd.

The irony is that people will drive to county bars to drink and smoke, said Koncilja, who noted that he specializes in clients with drunk-driving charges.

"Then you'll have a longer road and maybe you'll kill someone on the way back," he said.

The group also plans to ask bar owners not to serve "the Fascist Four" council members, as Losavio called them, and for people to boycott their businesses.

"We're going to make this the most colorful, most interesting campaign there is," said one of the group's co-chairman, Don Gray, owner of Gray's Coors Tavern.

"It's important that we really make this thing a rights issue, not a smoking issue," Gray said of the group's campaign strategy.

"You are all freedom fighters," he said.

Bar and restaurant operators fear the ban will cost them business. But they were not the only people supporting the referendum and recalls.

Sharon Radacy, who gathered people's names at the door, said only about half the crowd were bar or restaurants proprietors.

She herself isn't one either, she said. She sells insurance, much of it to bars and restaurants, so "it's a trickle-down effect," she said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: antismoking; pufflist; smoking
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To: jragan2001
What are the rules concerning recalls in DeKalb County? Get organized and get it done.There's a chapter of Forces in Georgia...bet they'd be tickled pink to help.
21 posted on 12/19/2002 3:17:42 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Hell to pay
YES!

Finally!

22 posted on 12/19/2002 3:25:53 PM PST by jimt
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To: OBone
I hope this starts a trend and I hope they are successful on both petitions!

The petition for the suspension of the ban became available today and I picked one up at lunch at Losovio's office. It is number 297 and has spaces for 44 signatures and it is almost full now just from my workplace.

The petitions for the recall of the facsist four will become available tommorrow and most everyone I got signatures from today said they want to sign those also.

So to your hope, It's a surity I'd say.

23 posted on 12/19/2002 4:55:46 PM PST by Hell to pay
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To: Madame Dufarge; SheLion
This is going to be fun to watch!

Yes it is, especially when you have a front row seat, although I shudder to think of the consequences of failure here. Another of the other interesting items overheard at the meeting lastnight were a certain Chiropractor named Sova is getting a lot of appointments reserved. Freepers wouldn't do that would they?

24 posted on 12/19/2002 5:29:59 PM PST by Hell to pay
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To: SheLion; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection
Others handed out bumper stickers saying "Fix Potholes, Not People!" and "The Sloppers Are Probably More Unhealthy Than Cigarettes, Vote No On Smoking Ordinance!"

In case anyone was curious, Sloppers are an open faced greasy hamburger smothered in green chile and onions and cheese, Coor's Tavern made them famous around here.

25 posted on 12/19/2002 5:38:13 PM PST by Hell to pay
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To: Hell to pay
New ordinances in other states are creating a 20 foot zone beyond the entrances of buildings in which smoking is prohibited. These people should be glad they can at least have shelter.
26 posted on 12/19/2002 6:08:34 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Hell to pay
Another of the other interesting items overheard at the meeting lastnight were a certain Chiropractor named Sova is getting a lot of appointments reserved. Freepers wouldn't do that would they?


27 posted on 12/19/2002 6:16:41 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay

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28 posted on 12/19/2002 6:17:02 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Hell to pay
Freepers wouldn't do that would they?

Only one worth his salt.

29 posted on 12/19/2002 6:25:26 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Hell to pay
Sloppers are an open faced greasy hamburger smothered in green chile and onions and cheese, Coor's Tavern made them famous around here.

Mmmmmm. That sounds good! After the comments about drinking being more dangerous than smoking I thought 'Sloppers' might have been a reference to drinkers. LOL No offense to drinkers. Have a beer with that Slopper! And a smoke!!! ; )

30 posted on 12/19/2002 6:46:39 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: Hell to pay

Pueblo, this ones for you!


31 posted on 12/19/2002 8:01:04 PM PST by Democrap
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To: Hell to pay
and for people to boycott their businesses

Do you know what businesses they own? I doubt I go to them now but I would at least like to visit or call to tell them that I am boycotting them.

32 posted on 12/19/2002 10:10:26 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: SheLion
How long do you think it will take, when every bar and restaurant in town is circulating petitions for recall? One maybe two days to get enough signatures? This is going to be a beautiful thing. I just wish that I could sign.
33 posted on 12/19/2002 10:17:12 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Hell to pay
Chiropractor named Sova is getting a lot of appointments reserved. Freepers wouldn't do that would they?

I can't speak for all Freepers but I would never stoop so low. I can't stoop low because my back is just killing me . . .You say Sova is a Chiropactor? maybe I should make an appointment. On the other hand, my back might get better before my appointment. Maybe I should call, just to be safe.

34 posted on 12/19/2002 10:26:08 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Hell to pay
Chiropractor named Sova is getting a lot of appointments reserved

By the way, is Sova's office smoker friendly?

35 posted on 12/19/2002 10:28:46 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Hell to pay
Sloppers are an open faced greasy hamburger smothered in green chile

And they are good!

36 posted on 12/19/2002 10:30:37 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: Colorado Doug
Heh, heh, heh...don't wait till the last minute...it might be too late.
37 posted on 12/19/2002 10:45:50 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity
Anyone here from Pueblo willing to be our stringer there?
38 posted on 12/19/2002 10:48:39 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity
Max, did I miss some email addys? I'd love to get on the bandwagon to commend these people for standing up against the smell of tyranny.
39 posted on 12/20/2002 6:23:51 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Colorado Doug
How long do you think it will take, when every bar and restaurant in town is circulating petitions for recall? One maybe two days to get enough signatures? This is going to be a beautiful thing. I just wish that I could sign.

I wish ALL of us could sign, Doug! People are really getting fed up with special interest groups controlling our lives with something that has been legal and is still legal for hundreds of years.

Like I have said: if tobacco is so darn deadly, why don't they just ban it and save everyone all this grief. We all know the reason why! MONEY!

And I still say a lot of palms are being greased under the table to pass these bans. The lawmakers sure aren't listening to the "little people," and like Max said "It's all rubber stamped."

40 posted on 12/20/2002 7:15:03 AM PST by SheLion
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