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The domestication of the russian silver fox. (40 year fast track evolution)
internet ^ | (10/29/02 3:59:34 pm) | dj

Posted on 12/16/2002 6:21:39 PM PST by dennisw

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To: razorbak
"I defend the Good God against the idea of a continuous game of dice." (Speziali, 1972, 361) [EINSTEIN]

Not that Einstein believed in a personal God or an afterlife or anything like that. He was more of a pantheist.

But don't let that stop you from quote-mining to make it appear that more people support you than really do.

Psa.14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

And that has what to do with the discussion?
41 posted on 12/16/2002 11:02:55 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: FormerLib
Actually, that's not correct. Those that seemed tameable were intelligently selected and then their offspring were monitored. Can you point to the part of the article that deals with how those not selected were treated?

Yes, I can, they were not allowed to breed.

Yes, animals will adapt to changing conditions. They do not change into other animals, however.

Really? PROVE it!!

Not even close. The effects of intelligent selection on breeding were shown here. Nothing more.

Really? and falling down doesn't prove that gravity exists either.... geez, what an intellect you have...
42 posted on 12/16/2002 11:32:18 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: PatrickHenry
pedomorphosis,the retention of juvenile traits by adults.

Wow! I know a few people afflicted with this... ;-)

43 posted on 12/17/2002 2:55:21 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: AndrewC

Evolution and Domestication:
Selection on Developmental Genes?

Price (1984) defined domestication as "a process by which a population of animals becomes adapted to man and the captive environment, by some combination of genetic changes occurring over generations and environmentally induced developmental events recurring during each generation." Domesticated animals differ significantly from animals in the wild. There appears to be a suite of characteristics that accompany domestication, and these characteristics have be linked to pedomorphosis--the retention of juvenile characteristics in the adult body (Coppinger and Smith, 1983; Price, 1984; Morey, 1994).

When one thinks about domestication, the case of dogs becomes paramount. The dog was probably the first animal to be domesticated (although some anthropologists have said that humans, themselves, actually deserve this title). Indeed, we shouldn't even call these animals dogs, since Canis familiaris (the scientific name for dog) is more a name of convenience than that denoting a real species (see Isaac, 1970). The actual name might be Canis lupus, the wolf. Wolves and dogs can interbreed, and the morphological differences between wolves and dogs are certainly as close as that between the different dog types (such as Great Dane, French poodle, and Chihuahua). Perhaps the dogs we are dealing with are Canis lupus familiaris, a subspecies of the wolf.

Many arguments about domestication (see Morey, 1994) focus on the notion of intentionality. That is to say, did humans select the traits they wanted (human intention), or did humans merely provide a new ecological niche that the wolves exploited ("self domestication")? In the latter scenario, (Zeuner, 1963; Coppinger and Smith, 1983) the wolves that became dogs may have started out as scavengers around human camp sites who became accustomed to human handouts. Such debates focus more on what it is to be human (as a manipulator of nature) than on what it is to be a dog. There probably was a reciprocal relationship (something that any dog "owner" can tell us about) between wolves finding a new niche and humans finding a furry friend and helper. Both natural selection and artificial selection may have contributed to wolf domestication.

So whether by human intention or niche exploitation, some wolves have become dogs. How did this occur? In becoming domesticated, wolves have undergone numerous morphological, physiological, and behavioral changes. Morey (1994) finds a common factor in pedomorphosis. The adult dog has retained many of the phenotypic traits of the juvenile wolf. The skulls are broad for their length, and juvenile behavioral traits such as whining, barking, and submissiveness, are retained in the adult dog. Morey considers pedomorphosis as a by-product of natural selection for early sexual maturity and small body size that would increase the fitness of wolves in exploiting a new ecological niche.

Interestingly, the constellation of pedomorphic behaviors and morphologies is also seen in the domestication of other animals. These morphological changes include: the appearance of dwarf or giant varieties, piebald coat colors, curly tails, shortened tails with fewer vertebrae, and floppy ears. Physiological changes also occur as both herbivores and carnivores are domesticated. The most notable of these involves changes in the reproductive cycles that end the yearly estrus. Behavioral changes mostly involve tameness, a suite of characteristics that make the animal docile and malleable to human intentions. Moreover, these changes appear to be inherited.

In the 1950s, Dmitry Belyaev of the Soviet Union's Institute of Cytology and Genetics in Novosibirsk, Siberia, began testing a hypothesis to look at whether selection for a behavioral trait--tamability--could bring with it the morphological and physiological traits associated with domestication and pedomorphosis. He postulated that if human intention was involved, humans would have selected their wolves for tameness, whatever that was. Since tameness and aggression were probably regulated by hormones, then selecting for tameness and against aggression would mean selecting for physiological variants as well. The physiological variants, in turn, might be those associated with the retention of juvenile traits (see Belyaev, 1979; Trut, 1999).

Belyaev and his colleagues decided to initiate a breeding program that would strongly select tamability and see what happened to the biological phenotype after several generations. He chose as his test animal a species close to the wolf, namely the silver fox, Vulpes vulpes, an animal never before domesticated. The experiment began with 30 male foxes and 100 vixen from a commercial fur farm. (Such animals had been bred without conscious selection for over 50 years, so these were already foxes that survived in caged conditions). The criteria for tamability were very strict. Only about 5% of the males and 20% of the females are selected to breed. The foxes were not trained, so the major component of their tameness should be genetic. Tameness was measured by the ability of young, sexually mature foxes to behave in a friendly manner to their handlers, wagging their tales and whining. Eventually, a "domesticated elite" classification arose--these were the foxes that actually sought to establish human contact, licking the scientists like dogs would. By the tenth generation, 18 percent of the young foxes were in this elite category. By the twentieth generation, 35% were in this category. Today, over forty years after the breeding had begun, these domesticated foxes comprise from 70-80% of the test population.

Figure 1. Changes taking place during domestication. (A) Changes in the foxes’ coat color were the first novel traits noted, appearing in the eighth to tenth selected generations. In a fox homozygous for the Star gene, large areas of depigmentation similar to those in some dog breeds are seen. (B) Tame foxes enjoy and seek out human contact. (From Belyaev, 1979.) Permission obtained from Oxford University Press.

 

Physical and physiological changes

After 40 years and over 30 generations of selection, has the physical nature of the population changed? The most obvious physiological changes involved corticosteroids. In wild foxes, the levels of corticosteroids, hormones involved in adaptation to stress, rise sharply between the age of 2-4 months, reaching adult levels by 8 months of age. The domesticated wolves had their corticosteroid surge significantly later. The domesticated foxes have a much lower adrenal response to stress, and they have more serotonin in their blood. Other physical changes produced by selection for tamability were the constellation of characters associated with domestication: regional depigmentation, floppy ears, and rolled tails. Belyaev claimed that the finding of the same suite of morphological changes in different types of domesticated animals selected for different traits (milk production, wool quality, strength, etc.), by different groups of people, argued that this was not just an artifact of the gene pool of these particular 130 foxes but was the common outcome of selecting for this behavioral trait (Trut, 1988, 1999).

By selecting for a behavioral trait associated with juveniles, Belyaev's group may have selected for those animals whose growth rates were such that pedomorphism would result. Floppy ears, for instance, are characteristics found in newborn wolves, and even the coat pigmentation patterns may be due to the selection of certain genes. The gene Star controls is involved in the timing of melanoblast migration in foxes (Belyaev et al., 1981; Trut, 1996). Certain alleles of this gene appear to have been selected and give the piebald pigmentation patterns in the adults. Skull size has also changed to a more juvenile condition--but not by selecting directly for size but for behavior.

The domestic fox is not yet a domestic wolf. It has not gotten to the point of domestication that we associate with dogs. However, in only 40 years, the fox has been domesticated by this group to such a degree that they can be sold as pets. Indeed, this might become their fate, as funds for these and other experiments in the former Soviet Union are in jeopardy, and there were no funds allocated last year for the feeding of these animals.

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Literature Cited

Belyaev, D. K. 1979. Destabilizing selection as a factor in domestication. J. Hered. 70: 301-308.

Belyaev, D. K. , Ruvinsky, A. O., and Trut, L. N. 1981. Inherited activation/inactivation of the star gene in foxes. J. Hered. 72: 264-274.

Coppinger, R. P, and Smith, C. K. 1983. The domestication of evolution. Environ. Conserv. 10, 283-292.

Isaac, E. 1970. Geography of Domestication. Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, N.J.

Morey, D. F. 1994. The early evolution of the domestic dog. Amer. Sci. 82: 336-347.

Price, E. 0. 1984. Behavioral aspects of animal domestication. Q. Rev. Biol. 59: 1-32.

Trut, L. N. 1988. The variable rates of evolution transformations and their parallelism in terms of destabilizing selection. J. Animal Breeding and Genet. 105: 81-90.

Trut, L. N. 1996. Sex ratio in silver foxes: effects of domestication and the star gene. Theoret. Appl. Genet. 92: 109-115.

Trut, L. M. 1999. Early canid domestication: the farm-fox experiment. Amer. Sci. 87: 160-168.

Zeuner, F. E. 1963. A History of Domesticated Animals. Harper & Row, New York.

 

44 posted on 12/17/2002 3:44:23 AM PST by dennisw
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To: FormerLib
Amazing was intelligent intervention can do.

Turn foxes into juvenile, whimpering, whining mutants with an innate inability to survive on their own and a willingness to accept periodic culling of their brethren? In other words, they took something beautiful, fierce and independent and turned it into a democrat... a communist wet dream, since communists had always wanted to breed truly domestic humans, a dream known as the 'new communist man.'

Someone notify me when they can, through selective breeding, turn a fox into a badger.

45 posted on 12/17/2002 4:02:05 AM PST by piasa
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To: Aric2000
Amazing how this thread, with a delightful article about breeding domesticated foxes, has flushed out so many sick, demended, anti-rational whackos.
46 posted on 12/17/2002 4:14:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: dennisw
bump for later
47 posted on 12/17/2002 4:21:58 AM PST by Varda
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To: PatrickHenry
For what it's worth I believe in God, I don't buy the story that evolution accounts for all development. This fox experiment though is a good example of evolution is action in a distinct time and place. Human intervention is selecting here for tame/docile foxes. Nature's intervention would achieve the same results. This intervention could be a swift new predator in the fox's neighborhood that weeds out (kills) (selects against) the slower foxes.
48 posted on 12/17/2002 4:26:43 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Aric2000
You ask me to prove a negative and then you question my intellect?
49 posted on 12/17/2002 5:35:10 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: piasa
In other words, they took something beautiful, fierce and independent and turned it into a democrat... a communist wet dream...

ROTFLMAO!

50 posted on 12/17/2002 5:36:13 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: Ookie Wonderslug
I want one. Foxes are cool.

They're supposed to be bright but you'd never know it looking at all the dead ones alongside the roads...

52 posted on 12/17/2002 6:09:38 AM PST by titanmike
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To: dennisw
Yes, that is an interesting site. I did not post the info because it pretty much says the same thing as your article. The notable thing is that selection affects things independent of their "fitness". You might want to read the article on the zebra stripes on that site.
53 posted on 12/17/2002 6:34:09 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
Amazing how this thread, with a delightful article about breeding domesticated foxes, has flushed out so many sick, demended, anti-rational whackos.

You are being too hard on yourself. You are not that demended. I recommend tex 150 for the bee.


54 posted on 12/17/2002 6:39:24 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
has flushed out so many sick, demended, anti-rational whackos.

Thanks for the ping.
Two questions for you.
1. Why do the supernaturalists have the need to post their
gibberish on science threads?
2. Do you go to their supernaturalist forum and troll?

55 posted on 12/17/2002 7:30:51 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet
1. Why do the supernaturalists have the need to post their gibberish on science threads?

If you will notice, this is in the source article.

'Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Religion is the encystment of past beliefs: mythology, which is guesswork, the assumptions of trust in the universe, those pronouncements which men have made in search of personal power, all of it mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always the ultimate unspoken commandment is "Thou shalt not question!" But we question. We break that commandment as a matter of course. The work to which we have set ourselves is the liberating of the imagination, the harnessing of imagination to humankind's deepest sense of creativity.' Frank Herbert.

No saviour from on high delivers

No faith have we in prince or peer

Our own right hand the chains must shiver

Chains of hatred, greed and fear

The Internationale


56 posted on 12/17/2002 7:56:02 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: dennisw
placeholder bump
57 posted on 12/17/2002 7:57:47 AM PST by js1138
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To: ASA Vet
Two questions for you.
1. Why do the supernaturalists have the need to post their gibberish on science threads?
2. Do you go to their supernaturalist forum and troll?

As to your #1, I have no idea; it's one of life's mysteries. Answer to #2 is "no." I don't even have them on my ping list.

58 posted on 12/17/2002 8:07:06 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry; ASA Vet
I don't even have them on my ping list.

Better remove the crevo_list entry.

59 posted on 12/17/2002 8:13:26 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
;^) thanks!
60 posted on 12/17/2002 8:18:20 AM PST by null and void
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