Arizona militia set to patrol border for illegal aliens

Washington Times ^ | 12/09/02 | Jerry Seper

[eldoradude]

Good suggestion, I agree. Lawsuits seem to work pretty well for the envirowhackos.

Bring on the public hearings. The American public isn't nearly as ignorant and stupid as a lot of politicians and media folks like to think. If this issue gets a little more visibility our 'leaders' may have to take some action to keep their jobs.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for the comments. I'm quite sick of the current situation.

[BJungNan]

Their "challenge" to Bush to arrest them smacks of publicity seeking behavior safe in the knowledge that they have nothing to fear.

I don't read it that way. I read it as they plan to go ahead with the patrols. Their serious.

I realize this is an opinion board, but do you anything to back up your statement that this is only a publicity stunt, anything that contradicts this groups stated intentions to actually defend the border. You seem to rule out any possibility that they are serious. I thought you might have something to base that on.

[DAnconia55]

Much like the Klayman Basin patriots, they kept their heads down until a Republican president was elected and the real personal threat had passed.

BushBot at high noon, Jeff.

[DAnconia55]

I am trying to get those of you that throw around the term "traitor" to agree with the punishment prescribed for the crime of treason.

Why? So you can turn us in to the Brown Shirt committee?

[DAnconia55]

We can't all be armchair patriots in the safety and comfort of our dens.

Texas isn't a patriot.
He's on the side of the all powerful state. There's a group of them here. Mark their names, and learn who they are.

Check their posts, do a search when you suspect, and you can document it.

[NRA2BFree]

It's really a shame it's had to come to this, but we are in the right. I'm sure NM will be following suit in the near future!

God bless these brave men and women.

[BJungNan]

Did this problem just surface on January 20th, 2001 or did they know how they would be received by a Clinton/Reno regime? Much like the Klayman Basin patriots, they kept their heads down until a Republican president was elected and the real personal threat had passed. This "challange to be arrested" smells like week old fish.

Events unfold far less dictated by who is in office as you suggest than as concerns over them come to a head. A little research into your own questions will lead you to conclusions a bit more substanitive than your easy explanations of week old fish.

[Brad C.]

"Armed civilian groups on the border contribute to an already fragile situation, and their rhetoric is very dangerous to the overall security of the region," Mr. Grijalva said. "We have a failed border policy, but the intrusion of armed militias certainly adds to the potential for violence.

So here is a thought Mr. Grijalva, get together with your other governemnt friends and station the Arizona National Guard down on the border to stop the illegals and reduce the need of the citizenry to take these kinds of actions. If you were doing your job; working for the good of the Grand State of Arizona, your constituents wouldn't have to do it for you!

[DoughtyOne]

I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that if states called out their national guard, Bush would nationalize them and order them to stand down.

[Brad C.]

I would lose that bet, as I don't think Bush would hesitate to do just that. At which point the State of Arizona would have to position its police force on the border, in order to do what is right by its citizens.

None of this will happen, but it is nice to be able to dream. I know I would be a member of this militia group if I lived in Arizona.

[wcbtinman]

"...they kept their heads down until a Republican president was elected and the real personal threat had passed."

You have always been some kind of smarta$$, but this is over the top even for you.

Until you go and stand an armed watch on the border fo this country, you can shove your criticism of these patriots where the sun don't shine.

I've been there, seen the travesty that has been created by the open border situation, and I've stood watch on the border. You wouldn't make a pimple on any one of these guy arses.

[doosee]

I know I would be a member of this militia group if I lived in Arizona.

The media has taken the word militia and demonized it to equate to Nazis, KKK, and OBL rolled into one. They should insist that they be called one big neighborhood crime watch, the do gooders in liberal bastions like that term.

[DoughtyOne]

You wouldn't make a pimple on any one of these guy arses.

Now that's where you and I differ.  I've watched this idiot for some time.  I think that's about all he's qualified to make.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks Brad. I understand. Take care.

[snippy_about_it]

bump for later read.

[CDHart]

"This should have happened 10 years ago."

We tried ten years ago and Clinton and Morris Dees blew us out of the water.

Carolyn

[Imal]

If the past is any guide, the feds will deploy many more agents to investigate, harrass and arrest these militiamen than it will to guard the border in that area.

[snopercod]

Article 16, Section 1, Arizona Constitution

The militia of the State of Arizona shall consist of all capable citizens of the state [between the ages of eighteen and forty-five years], and of those [between said ages] who shall have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing therein, subject to such exemptions as now exist, or as may hereafter be created, by the laws of the United States or of this state."

So why doesn't the governor of Arizona make this effort official by calling up their militia?

Arizona Militia Website

[rintense]

I dare the president of the United States to arrest Americans who are protecting their own country

I love it! I dare the President to take this dare.