Posted on 12/03/2002 6:32:19 AM PST by Iron Eagle
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:38:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Published in the Asbury Park Press 12/03/02 Fire alerts authorities to nearly 500 weapons By MICHAEL CLANCY STAFF WRITER FAIR HAVEN -- Three dump trucks removed an arsenal of live ammunition and almost 500 weapons -- all of them apparently held legally -- which police found in a home after the fire department responded to a chimney fire and the homeowner threatened the fire chief with a rifle, authorities said yesterday.
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If the vise was clamped on the cartridge case where the bullet was and held the bullet in while the heat built up and caused the powder to burn, the resultant gases could build up presure until somrthinge broke --- but that is not the same result as when the cartridge is heated without the bullet being restrained.
How do you know they are toothless ?
Ahh, there's the rub. that is NOT the statement I was replying to. Perhaps you would reread what you posted previously. Regards....
...having just purchased a fire resistant safe they recommend NOT storing your ammo inside it.
Understood. However, it might be a good idea to post a "hazard" sticker on the door, indicating that black powder is stored inside. Such notice provokes second thoughts in those who would try to torch it open.
So if there's a meth lab or a larger-than-household-use amount of chlorine in the house, that's nobody's business, unless the homeowner chooses to tell the firefighters he has material in his home that may cause an explosion or a health hazard to other people. Do I understand you correctly? Because I fail to see how firefighters can ascertain necessary information about a burning home without actually entering it.
I think the dealer we got it from was recommending not putting the ammo/powder in the safe because in the off chance that the fire temp/duration exceeds the safety rating, the stuff may ignite.
Never happen. Check out the military tests done on small arms ammo and described in "Hatcher's Notebook".
Small arms ammo stored in a military ammo can will barely bulge the lid if placed in a fire. No amount of non black powder ammo is going to hurt a decent gun safe, or even the firearms in it.
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Hey, I saw that video! I didn't believe my EMT buddy when he said they don't worry about ammo at all and he brought it in for me - he said what they DO worry about is those little propane bottles you take camping that people like to hide in their closets...
Terriergal, some folks have had their homes ransacked in the past while they were on vacation or otherwise absent, up to and including cutting open safes. If the bad guy thinks there's a couple of pounds of FFg inside, he'll be reluctant to apply a torch to the safe.
I suppose the alternative approach would be to store the FFg in the safe without posting the warning... the result is a dish called 'burglar surprise.'
His movie name-sake would be proud of the facism he supports.
Waco. Ruby Ridge. TIPS. The US (anti-) PATRIOT Act. Project Meggido. Eschelon. Et cetera et al...
Take another hit of Prozac and continue to live in La-La land.
Do you know this individual personally? Is he really some drooling paranoid, or a serious gun-collector? Making such statements only points you out as the non-thinking Troll-bot that you are shaping up to be.
He very well could have been grabbing the rifle to save at least some part of his collection from the flames. The Chief very well could have been jumping the gun, so to speak, on claiming the guy was going to aim it at him at all.
Think about it. Why would you want to point an un-loaded gun at someone? To scare them off? With all the LOADED guns in the house, if he had wanted to, he could just as easily have grabbed one of those if his intent was in line with the Chief's accusation.
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