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President Bush Opens U.S. Roads to Mexican Trucks
AP NEWS ^ | Published: Nov 27, 2002 | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/27/2002 2:29:10 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury

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To: Recovering_Democrat
The xenophobia of some in our conservative community is unwarranted

It isn't xenophobia. It's border security.

We can't know what's loaded on the trucks, and they don't inspect every truck at the border.

Very easy to stick a nuke on one and drive it to your friendly naive US destination...

81 posted on 11/27/2002 4:16:21 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Mexico: the world's #3 source of petroleum.

Our #1 source of illegal drugs.

82 posted on 11/27/2002 4:21:20 PM PST by FITZ
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To: cajun-jack
he couldn't understand enough english

They'll have to change the signs to spanish ----we're already seeing it here. Truck stop employees will be required to speak spanish also.

83 posted on 11/27/2002 4:23:11 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
In as much as NAFTA had its beginnings in the Reagan Administration, and Mexican truck access is part of NAFTA, you would have to conclude that Reagan has more responsibility for this than Bush who did not enter office until 2001.
84 posted on 11/27/2002 4:23:22 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: e_engineer
Wasn't this a regular good old boy American who picked up a load of lumber at Home Depot near Dundalk Maryland?

Not sure about the good old boy part, but the Maryland location fits.  Good call!   From Snopes:
This picture is real -- not doctored in any way -- and was taken last week in Waldorf, MD by a Transportation Supervisor for a company that delivers building materials for 84 Lumber. When he saw it there in the parking lot of IHOP, he went and bought a camera to take pictures.

85 posted on 11/27/2002 4:23:59 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
86 posted on 11/27/2002 4:24:43 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Eric Esot
Presently, hundreds of thousands of Mexican trucks cross the border annually, but they all stop at border free-trade zones where their goods are transferred to American vehicles.

How do you think the cocaine, marijuana, heroin and the rest are getting in? They've been having to unload at warehouses and then get them distributed later, this will be much more convenient and not many trucks are stopped or checked at the borders. End the War on Drugs ---it's definitely a farce with this move. We might as well save the money.

87 posted on 11/27/2002 4:25:40 PM PST by FITZ
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To: cajun-jack
the tire was completely gone and was throwing a rooster tail of sparks.....he couldn't understand enough english to tell him on the cb so we had to box him in and motion for him to pull over

Oh Goody! First Trucks... Next stop - Spanish speaking Airline Pilots!!

88 posted on 11/27/2002 4:26:06 PM PST by DAnconia55
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Our #1 source of illegal drugs

Actually, that's probably Kentucky :)

89 posted on 11/27/2002 4:26:44 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: american spirit
I've talked to some truckers already who say there will be hell to pay!

I already know of truckdrivers being laid off. They won't have jobs unless they'll work for Mexican wages. Mexicans will work for longer hours for much less money. Sure the accident rates will go up but transportation will be so much cheaper.

90 posted on 11/27/2002 4:28:13 PM PST by FITZ
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To: deport
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush gave the go-ahead Wednesday for Mexican trucks to travel U.S. roads beyond commercial border zones where they have been restricted while inspection sites and new regulations were put in place.
Carlos Olemedo of the National Council of Mexican Professionals (?) was on O'Reilly Factor squaring off against Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo on the administrations plan to push amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. Olemedo was presenting the tired argument that the illegals are economically necessary and that rounding up and deporting millions of them would be inhumane.

Well, I've been doing a lot of thinking about the illegal aliens and the politicians whining about not having enough money, continually wanting to raise our taxes as a solution to the budget problems. Washington is sending feelers out to see if we will riot over an amnesty.

This just might be a solution. See if you like it.

Educate a couple of hundred young energetic people to an idea like this one. Youngsters who feel American Patriotism is a finer character asset than national Diversity is. Yes, us patriots do obey the laws.

Then these young people would need to go face to face with the residents of your lightly populated rural county and explaining how it would work and benefit them, their kids, and their grandkids. Have a website that would explain just why this is being done. Explain the costs to each individual community because of the illegal alien residency and immigration.

It is obvious that INS and the State Dept are corrupt. Attempting to correct the corruption is the wrong way to fix the problem. Rounding up the illegals and removing them will fix the problem!!!

Get your local population educated to the idea of electing a Sheriff who will go face to face with the Federal government. He is going to need legal advice on how to do all of this. Ideally you would want local attorneys or judges to provide this advice. Hey, before you run off...the local attorneys and judges have kids and grandkids too.

Sheriffs are the top LEO in each County. They have the authority to demand that the Feds call ahead and ask to come into your County to enforce Federal laws. Check your State Constitution if you don't believe me.

Now getting the Sheriff and County officials to go along with it, is of course another subject. Just maybe you might be able to find someone who thinks as I do, that illegal aliens are parasites in America, and they would also spread the idea amongst the citizens of your County. Then the citizens could write a petition to force the Council and Sheriff to follow their instructions.

If you have a Sheriff and local County officials of a lightly populated County with a budget deficit and the abnormal high taxes who will declare that all illegal aliens from every nation will be arrested and removed from the County in 30, 60 or 90 days the program is on it's way.

All assets not removed from the County must be assigned by the illegal alien to be sold with registered agents or they will be seized by the Sheriff and sold. These funds will be divided between the Sheriffs Office and the County budget offices for expenses.

All people employing illegal aliens will also be arrested and fined. Perhaps $5000 per employee. This would prompt employers to demand that their employees bring in birth certificates, etc. I think there is a federal law forbidding this, I'm not sure. But so what? If they won't protect America then we must do it. This also keeps the government out of our personal records any more than necessary.

The hiring of non citizens that have entered the US legally with the legal assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services will of course be encouraged. Only the hiring of illegal aliens will be reason for arrest and stiff fines. It is already against the law to hire an illegal alien. These people have already broken too many of our laws for us to continue to turn our heads.

Perhaps ads could be placed in the newspapers of the surrounding counties to obtain legal workers for the farm, ranch, gas station and local K-Mart to replace the ones who are leaving. A local 800 number could be updated daily with jobs available in your County.

All people giving aid or care to illegal aliens would also be arrested and fined. This would include all illegal aliens who are family members of legal aliens. I would imagine this would gather up quite a few people who have overstayed their visitors pass.

This will result in no or very few illegal aliens going to the local hospitals for medical attention. The hospital will start making money again instead of heading into bankruptcy. Just imagine what the result would be if prices dropped!

This will also bring welfare for illegal aliens to a screeching halt. This alone will do much for your local budget, maintaining or even drop taxes.

School districts would require much less money because the new residents in the county would certainly be more able to speak English. I think schools already check for birth certificates and medical history. (This maybe a good place for the sheriff to start.)

Imagine what that would do to surrounding Counties with similar budget deficits. Would the residents agree to more taxes or would they say get the lawbreakers out of here?

Do you think it might convince the State officials when enough Counties have adopted these measures that we citizens are serious in our desire to protect our communities from being over run by illegal aliens? Would this prompt them to follow our guidance and issue state laws that demand law enforcement agencies to enforce ALL the laws or their budgets get cut?

I think half a dozen community residents that are involved in the legal system and the business community could work out what to do to make an idea similar to this work in your community.

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For the legal minded folks I have included a statement from one of the cases that made it through the Supreme Court. Unless there are State laws forbidding such actions as I have suggested, I think everything legally is above the table. A local judge could give the Sheriff advice on how to handle the little tweak of the laws.

The federal Gov't may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command State' officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policy making is involved, and no case by case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty.

Justice Antonin Scalia, Mack vs US., June 27, 1997

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The way I see it is that given the opportunity and enough notice to move their families safely, the illegal aliens would pack up and leave rather than fight a Sheriff who is broadcasting that just because the Feds aren't going to enforce the immigration laws doesn't mean he isn't.

Employers would rather make a company policy that all employees must prove that they are American citizens or in the United States legally than be fined $5000 per employee for supporting open border policy.

Give employers a chance to advertise for critical employees who are currently illegal aliens so their businesses don't suffer a drastic skill shortage.

Just as an add on, I imagine that the local crime rates would be continually dropping until it again reached an acceptable level.

Surrounding rural counties would surely catch on quickly to the benefits and start similar programs. All it would take is one newspaper article about their city council needing money for some more public services. There is much more rural county land in the US than cities in county land, that's why I am promoting a rural county to start with.

The residents are more apt to be on a handshake basis with their elected official than residents of large cities are. I think that it wouldn't take too long before cities would simply not be able to afford to support all the illegals who are on taxpayer paid benefits. Consequently, like it or not they would have to fall in line.

I have no idea how fast an idea such as this would spread and actually take firm hold causing neighboring state legislators to look at the idea BEFORE their state was swamped with illegal aliens and the taxpayers rose up demanding immediate solutions. The crime rate amongst illegals is very high as it is. A plan such a this could send it through the ceiling, so caution would be advised on initiating it in a city. Vandalism and riots would probably occur in some areas, so the Governor would need to be ready with the State National Guard Units.

This could be dangerous because it could foster hate and anger. Too much anger would result in radicals bringing out their guns chasing the illegals out of their neighborhoods. We have seen gang wars and the resulting violence, this could be worse. So, it will have to be a slow, calm, well organized plan in each county!

Our intention is to bring the population of our neighborhoods into patriotic, law abiding folks not to be ravaged by foreigners who have nowhere to go. Eventually, I can see where states would have to cough up the funds and or transportation for the people to get back to Norway, Brazil, Australia, Japan and China.

The first States to do this emigration plan will encounter the least expenses. Of course I would expect it to happen, if it ever does, in Western States.

If we continue to allow to let the Feds handle it, they will continue to dilly dally around like they been doing and the problem will never be solved. So, the way I see this, the STATES are going to have to stand up after too many years on our knees to the self promoting, egotistical big shots in the Federal Legislature and the Federal Agencies. We need to show them that we'll fix the problem ourselves. Imagine if our citizens brought a halt to Agenda 21, that would set the United Nations on its rear end!!

Notice the direction of travel in this definition.


\Em`i*gra"tion\, n. [L. emigratio: cf. F. ['e]migration.] 1. The act of emigrating; removal from one country or state to another, for the purpose of residence, as from Europe to America, or, in America, from the Atlantic States to the Western.*

Lets change the worlds idea of where to emigrate from and to! We have given education and work experience to millions of illegal aliens. Now lets give them a chance to see if they can do it for themselves back home!!!

If you think this might work, phone some local friends to see what they think of it.

Why not email other friends with this idea and see if we can't get it started. Of course there will surely need to be modifications to initialize it and perhaps different ideas to promote it. Each County is slightly different and we don't want extreme radicals promoting it or else it will surely sink into oblivion.

Here's another piece to look at.

91 posted on 11/27/2002 4:28:34 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: khenrich
Noticed any Mexicans calling Geo. Bush a moron? Or an idiot?

Yes I do, all the legal ones that are actually American citizens that respect our laws!

92 posted on 11/27/2002 4:29:18 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Drill Alaska
93 posted on 11/27/2002 4:29:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The time is right. We stage protests. We photograph those protests. We tape those protests. We mail copies to JimRob

well, good for you. sounds like phil donahue. why in the hell should you have to protest to people who should, and, yea, claim to, know better?

oh yeah, because these folks aren't really serious.

94 posted on 11/27/2002 4:29:47 PM PST by galt-jw
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
95 posted on 11/27/2002 4:30:23 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Ben Ficklin
Reagan is not responsible for letting these trucks in, Bush is. And I will vote for ANYONE in the Republican primary who is pro-America and pro-sovereignty.
96 posted on 11/27/2002 4:30:49 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Hopefully President Bush has put adequate safeguards in place to keep the riff raff out and the commerce flowing though.

Wish with one hand, $hit in the other and see which one fills up 1st. Amnesty is next.

97 posted on 11/27/2002 4:31:32 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: CIBvet
I'll put my skills up against anyone, and if I can cut it, I'll cut it.

Resources would be more efficiently used if we didn't have to unload and reload every truck that comes over the border.

98 posted on 11/27/2002 4:32:53 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: B4Ranch
It looks like Fox and his comrades made the right threats. Bush seems to be knuckling under their pressure. I wouldn't be surprised now if they get "the whole enchildada" as they've demanded.
99 posted on 11/27/2002 4:33:59 PM PST by FITZ
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To: DAnconia55
I don't deny borders can or should be tighter. Perhaps I'm talking apples and you're talking oranges, because we probably agree about border security. I'm talking about using trucks for hauling lettuce and TVs and other stuff around.
100 posted on 11/27/2002 4:34:49 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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