FReeper Needs Advice: How Can We Better Respond To Pro-Aborts?

Sparta | 26 Nov 02 | Sparta

[Mr. Silverback]

Sparta graciously gave me permission to post the text of this freepmail, which was sent to me from the "Pro-Life Families Complain About Group's Telemarketing Calls" thread:

This was going to be off topic, so I chose to freepmail you this instead.

I was debating abortion with my friends today. They were saying that abortion should be legal because children of poor parents would grow up in misery. Also, raped women would be too traumatized to carry their children. Also, teenage girls would have their lives ruined by caring for illegitmate children. I said that adoption would give the children a chance for life in the first two situations a better life and I said the teenage girls need to learn how to responsible. They then said that pro-lifers were just cruel and evil. How do I better respond to pro-abortion arguements?

[Mr. Silverback]

So, let us plumb the depths of the greatest font of wisdom on the web: The minds of FReepers! How can Sparta better respond to these pro-aborts and how can we all better respond to the issue in general?

[Mr. Silverback]

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[Sparta]

Thank you again and I wait for the ping list's wisdom.

[Mr. Silverback]

No sweat. I'm gonna come back in a few minutes and give you my take.

[Illbay]

MY IDEA.

[ClearCase_guy]

Pro-lifers are cruel and evil because they want innocent little children to live. Got it.

My feeling is that establishing the nature of the "fetus" is sometimes useful. For me, it is alive (how is it not?) and it is human (how is it not?). On what grounds can we kill a living human who has committed no crime? I call that murder. They call it "choice". It is no more defensible than the Jewish Holocaust or slavery.

Your friends seem focused on outcomes (it will ruin a teenager's life) and not on moral principles (murder is wrong). Hey, Hitler envisioned wonderful outcomes too. Europe free of sub-human vermin! Oh, how lovely! But he was wrong and he committed great evil.

[DLfromthedesert]

You are one sick puppy.

[Sparta]

They're my friends. I was the one who sent the FreepMail. I don't mean any disrespect.

[meandog]

How Can We Better Respond To Pro-Aborts?

Draw a line in the sand of moral absolution at the first trimester, rape and incest, or the life of the mother!

[DLfromthedesert]

Look, at this point this "right" is deeply ingrained in our culture. The best way make abortion rare is to change the hearts and minds of people.

I believe laws regarding parental consent and informed consent are the best way to go.

Technology since the inception of Roe v Wade has made it easy to view the living fetus and women should be given this info as part of the decision-making process.

It is the women who have been lied to by the abortion industry who are the ones who have to deal with what they have done and I know many who grieve and feel profound guilt.

[Pintobean]

Like Clearcase_guy said, pro-aborts are focused on the end result: no fetus (baby) to deal with.

Personally (and this comes from a woman), if women and girls don't want to deal with a pregnancy, the best way to avoid pregnancy is keep their legs closed.

[Mr. Bird]

They were saying that abortion should be legal because children of poor parents would grow up in misery.

That's the most ridiculous pro-abortion argument I've ever heard. Aren't these the same people who think the rich are coddled too much? Now do they propose mass murder of the poor?

[hunter112]

I remind them that, even though they may not know it, many of their friends and families used to be fetuses. I will go up to avidly pro-abortionists and introduce myself as a former fetus.

[Pintobean]

Like Clearcase_guy said, pro-aborts are focused on the end result: no fetus (baby) to deal with.

Personally (and this comes from a woman), IMO,if women and girls don't want to deal with a pregnancy, the best way to avoid pregnancy is keep their legs closed.

[Mr. Silverback]

OOOPS!! Let's try that again!

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[Mr. Silverback]

Ummm...Illbay...I'm at a computer with no sound at all right now. Description?

[hillsborofox]

Pro-Woman Answers to Pro-Choice Questions.

[Mr. Silverback]

Personally (and this comes from a woman), if women and girls don't want to deal with a pregnancy, the best way to avoid pregnancy is keep their legs closed.

My, what a radical and bold concept you've presented here...I'm sure you'll go on to claim, in that smug ProLifer manner, that this method is 100% effective.

[Malcolm]

We can respond to them with the simple truth, that abortion is murder. We can respond to the problem by electing anti-abortion candidates into ofc, who will outlaw it, or at the very least, severely curtail it. I'm not into convincing pro-abortion nuts of obvious arguments. Let's elect some people who will change the law and force it down their throats. The people who support abortion are not reasonable, so appeals to them will be fruitless, for the most part. It's time to act, not to talk. If you not voting, you need to start. This war can be won, but only if we fight it.....

[jwalsh07]

Start here Sparta.

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