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To: Dr. Luv
My mother in law developed lung cancer. She ran 2 miles a day well into her 60's.Never smoked.
Lost a friend to lung cancer at 44. Thought she was cancer free after removing her ovaries. Came back in her lungs 4 years later. She died 3 weeks after diagnosis. Didn't smoke.
If you are a doctor, I wouldn't go to you.
You aren't honest.
224 posted on 11/26/2002 1:32:01 PM PST by Bogey
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To: Bogey
Dishonest professionals don't say "...(and ALWAYS get a second opinion)".
225 posted on 11/26/2002 1:35:51 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Bogey
"If you are a doctor, I wouldn't go to you. You aren't honest."

Precisely how have you determined that I am not honest?

228 posted on 11/26/2002 1:41:56 PM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Bogey
Bogey for every non smoking relative that you name, I & every non smoker or former smoker can name 10 of our relatives who were smokers & were killed by it. My mother-in-law smoked unfiltered camels for 45 years & developed oat seed (or oat cell) carcinoma & was dead in 3 months. I'm sure you don't want to hear about the others, but I can go on & on.
230 posted on 11/26/2002 2:15:41 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Bogey

Gary Bain

Update 9/3/00
Since I last sent the below message, I have been approved for a Lung Transplant.  I also am now on full time oxygen where I have to have tubing around my ears and placed in my nose from an oxygen tank so I can breathe in more oxygen than what is in the normal air because my lungs do not work well enough.  When I go outside, I have to wear or carry a tank that has oxygen in it so I can breathe better when I walk.  I also now have to sleep with what they call  a CPAP.  It is like a hat that goes over your head and then hoses blow air into my nose so I can breathe better while I sleep.  This is not me, but it looks like this;


My name is Gary Bain, I am 58 and a grandfather to a 12 year old boy, a 12 year old girl, an 11 year old girl, 2- 7 year old girls, a 6 year old girl, a 5 year old girl, a 4 year old boy, and a brand new 4 week old little boy. They all call me Paw Paw, except for the little guy and he just grins.
I started smoking when I was about 11 or 12 years old. I kept right on smoking and smoking until it got where I was having a hard time breathing. I went to the doctor and he told me that I had to quit smoking because I had Emphysema. Emphysema is mostly caused by smoking after a long time and you don't know you have it until it is too late. I could still breathe pretty good but couldn't walk as far as I used to but kept on smoking anyway because I did not believe the doctor. I still didn't quit until my 58th birthday which was just last February 28th. I can breathe better , as a matter of fact, if you will follow the instructions I have typed out below, you can tell how I can breathe now.
Sit down somewhere and relax a little and when you feel comfortable, take your right or left hand and with your thumb and forefinger, hold your nose shut. While holding your nose shut, cover your mouth tightly with the rest of your hand so you can just barely breathe through your fingers.  Now,  walk for about 40 steps and turn around and come back while still breathing through your hand.  
Now, do you see how hard it is to breathe? Especially when you try to walk around? That is what Emphysema is and that is what smoking can do to you. Not for awhile, but when you are older and it is too late to do anything about it. Please don't even think about smoking.
If you have questions, you can email me at 1efforts@emphysema.net

237 posted on 11/26/2002 3:33:55 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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