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Who Are the Palestinians?
Arutz Sheva ^ | 11-24-02

Posted on 11/25/2002 10:39:10 AM PST by SJackson

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To: ppaul
What most people don't know is that the Grand Mufti was Arafat's uncle. He fueled the demon rat's vitriol and like Arafat, was an Arab from Egypt.
41 posted on 05/12/2005 8:27:24 PM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: proud palistinian

And you should learn to use a spell checker, and a bit more English grammar study.
It helps, when you want to write, you know.


42 posted on 05/13/2005 5:24:15 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
And you should learn to use a spell checker, and a bit more English grammar study. It helps, when you want to write, you know.

I believe that was posted about 6:15 in Gaza. I didn't know the internet cafes opened that early. At least she bumped the thread.

43 posted on 05/13/2005 5:29:56 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson

Even an illiterate can help the cause.
LOL


44 posted on 05/13/2005 5:35:56 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Bumped three years later by "request" in post 38

45 posted on 05/13/2005 5:37:18 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: Marguerite

Phillistines...


46 posted on 05/13/2005 5:41:20 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
They are not even Philistine, but Arabs
47 posted on 05/13/2005 5:43:24 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: SJackson

"PALESTINE" - Never an Arab Country

One of the myths of our time is that Israel, before it was settled by the “alien” Jews and “stolen” from the Arabs as a result of “imperialist machinations,” was an independent state called “Palestine” whose majority residents were Moslem “Palestinians”. Unfortunately for those who would propagate such misinformation, the truth can be easily and historically seen.
The historical fact is that until the defeat of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire in World War I, there was no geopolitical entity called “Palestine,” no Arab nation ever set historical roots on this soil and no national claim was ever made to the territory by any national group other than the Jews.

Between the time of the expulsion of the Jews by the Romans in the year 70 to 132 AD and the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, Israel (“Palestine”) was occupied by fourteen conquerors over thirteen centuries, until in 1948 the Jews once again declared their independence. The following table shows the historical periods of the various rulers of “Palestine”:


1. Israel Rule (Biblical period) 1350 BC to 586 BC
2. Babylonian Conquest 587 BC to 538 BC
3. Israel Autonomy (under Persian & Greco-Assyrian sovereignty) 538 BC to 168 BC
4. Revolt of the Maccabees 168 BC to 143 BC
5. Rule of the Hashmoneans & their successors 143 BC to 70 AD
6. Jewish Autonomy (under Roman & Byzantine sovereignty) 70 AD to 637 AD
7. Rule of Moslem Caliphs
Mecca 637 AD to 661 AD
Umayyides 661 AD to 750 AD
Abbaaside 750 AD to 870 AD
Fatimides 969 AD to 1071 AD 637 AD to 1072 AD
8. Seljukes Rule 1072 AD to 1096 AD
9. Crusaders
Ayyubids (in parts only) 1175 AD to 1291 AD 1099 AD to 1291 AD
10. Mamelukes Rule 1291 AD to 1516 AD
11. Ottomans (Turks) 1516 AD to 1918 AD
12. British Mandate 1918 AD to 1948 AD
13. Israel rule under democracy 1948 AD --- .

http://christianactionforisrael.org/never_arab.html


48 posted on 05/13/2005 5:44:39 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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Preserved for the ages, along with your profile:

38 posted on 05/12/2005 8:12:59 PM PDT by proud palistinian (sunnyde88@yahoo.com)

FYI - Eight two times (88) signifies "HH" shorthand for the Nazi greeting, "Heil Hitler."

49 posted on 05/13/2005 5:46:33 AM PDT by veronica (CP = Jeffords Republicrats...)
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To: veronica

She'll be back as proudpalestinian14


50 posted on 05/13/2005 5:48:08 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson
Italian Muslim cleric defends Israel - Blames Arafat, Arab leaders for continued Mideast violence

"Palazzi, a Muslim cleric, told WND that one of the most common misconceptions in the current Arab-Israeli conflict is that in reality, "there is no such thing as a 'Palestinian.'

"There never was. It is a PR fiction, a Madison Avenue fantasy," he said."

51 posted on 05/13/2005 5:51:55 AM PDT by veronica (CP = Jeffords Republicrats...)
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To: Marguerite
Like everyone surrounding the Mediterranean, they are an amalgamation of every group that has been through the area. It doesn't matter what they call themselves or what anyone else calls them, whether Palestinians or Arabs or Martians, they exist. Playing word games like this is pointless. There was no such thing as "Italians" before the unification.

"Italy is only a geographical expression." - Prince Klemens Von Metternich

52 posted on 05/13/2005 6:51:39 AM PDT by ValenB4
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To: ValenB4

Fiddlesticks, it's you who play semantics.
They are not palestinians, because there never was, in history a country named "Palestine".


53 posted on 05/13/2005 6:56:58 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

It doesn't matter, Marguerite. If a group of a million people move into an area and decide to call themselves the nation of Santa Claus, then that is what they are despite the fact that it never existed before. Nations are born when people decide to form them. By that logic, during the Revolutionary War, the British could argue that there was no such thing as an "American" people, who had not previously existed as their own group since they were derivative English. Yet anyone making that argument today would be considered crazy.


54 posted on 05/13/2005 7:26:32 AM PDT by ValenB4
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To: proud palistinian

Who's Astonished Now????

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alberuni irishhijabblue proud palistinian TBD

55 posted on 05/13/2005 7:41:25 AM PDT by Alouette (The truth is not hard to kill, but a lie told well is immortal. -- Mark Twain)
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To: SJackson

"generic Arabs" Heh, heh.

The answer:

Why, it was first founded by the nice Romans for the "Philistinians," 'cause the descendents of the Romans in all of western Europe now say so.

[Little irony and sarcasm there. And now for some sincerety.]

There have been Hebrews in Israel for thousands of years, despite nothing but invading pagan regimes having tried so hard to drive them all out.


56 posted on 05/13/2005 4:26:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: ValenB4; Marguerite
1669 - Deborah Wilson, the Quaker wife of Robert Wilson, had at one time walked naked through the streets of Salem as a spiritual testimony. For this she had been "sentenced to be tied at a cart's tail with her body naked downward to her waist, and whipped". She was brought before the court in 1669 for "frequently absenting herself from the public ordinances", but the case "was dismissed, court being informed that she is distempered in her head."

Hmmm...if generic Arabs should call Israel whatever they want to call it, I wonder what we should call Pennsylvania then?
57 posted on 05/13/2005 4:54:35 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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