Are 'Police State' Theorists Just Drama Queens?

Insight ^ | 11/25/02 | James Lacey

[zoyd]

They're only "Drama Queens" if the buck stops here, in terms of invading your privacy.

But when was the last time the Government didn't try and expand their power?

Government will always try and expand its power over the populace, as these privacy-killing measures prove. Who knows what a Democrat administration would do with a federal database/profiling system of every American? I don't want to find out.

The potential for future abuse, IMHO, is much greater than the benefits such measures are supposed to accrue. That just seems to be the way government programs go.

And I'm not necessarily talking about explicit programs -- think about the possible behind-the-scenese abuse bureaucrats could heap on citizens (like gun-owning citizens) with accesss to every facet of your personal history and federal profile... it's just a baaaad idea.

[justshutupandtakeit]

All things are not the same.

[dcwusmc]

Except to you. You are a disaster just drooling to happen. Thanks for your reassurance, it's just what we need. John Ashcroft can do what ever he feels he must, YOU said it's OK. I guess our fears are groundless in the face of your reassurance, the track record of FedGov notwithstanding. Is that about the way of it, statist-boy? or girl? or whatever?

[ExSoldier]

Somebody might post a link to an article archived here on FR titled "FEMA: THE DARK UNDERBELLY" if you want to see how such a police state might come about rapily and smoothly especially in light of a possible terror attack using WMD.

[justshutupandtakeit]

MOrons fears are never allayed. Paranoids can find fear in every corner. But Marines fearing the dark? I never thought I would see that day. Pitiful.

Let me know when the midnite roundups start.

[justshutupandtakeit]

As I thought any guns turned in are likely to be not even 50 much less 50,000. Don't you guys ever get any facts right?
Any who turned them in after such a request don't deserve to have them anyway. They probably don't even know which end to point.

[dcwusmc]

Try actually READING things like this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795617/posts?page=41#41
or this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795617/posts?page=35#35
or this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795617/posts?page=22#22
or this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795617/posts?page=21#21
Then get back to me. But apparently, all this is OK with you. Hence your nick... it's not ironic as I think you once stated; it's more wishful.

[Cultural Jihad]

Try actually READING things like this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795584/posts?page=130#130
Or this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795584/posts?page=132#132
Or this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/795584/posts?page=135#135

[dcwusmc]

You are as much a statist, constitution-ignoring thug as justshutupandtakeit so what would be your point? That JimRob doesn't think the Constitution's being changed by the HSB? That's his opinion, which I respect. I think he's totally wrong but I respect him and his opinion. YOU, OTOH, I have zero respect for, as your every post is a paean to the joys of bigger and bigger government. Sorry, I ain't buying. And, in these days of Islam-o-nazis, I'd give SERIOUS thought to finding a new nick. I know you have declared Jihad on America's Constitution but your handle is rather suspect in the post 9-11 clime.

[justshutupandtakeit]

None of those comments refute the point of the main article they are responding to but that is not a surprise.

If this information is readily available why would the National Security forces not use it to protect the nation. It is foolish to expect them not to, criminal, in fact.

As far the fears one expressed of the RATS using against conservatives. What is there to prevent the Party itself from gathering such info and using it for blackmail or political purposes? NOTHING.

[dcwusmc]

What an UNsurprisng response. I suspect that you would say the same if there were posted refutations line for line with pictures and sound. Gooberment can do no wrong as far as you are concerned.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Do you make a habit of making up thoughts for those who don't agree with you? Government obviously can and does do many things that are wrong generally at the urging of some consituency of voters and the supine acquiesence of the masses.

However, it is correct that people like you, in their ignorance, believe government can do no right.

I was supposed to be convinced of something by the blatherings you pointed out? I note no attempted refutation of what I actually posted. Wonder why?

[Henrietta]

What you did was very, very funny and proved your point exactly. Why so upset, Patriot? Have something to hide?

[ctdonath2]

And very nearly got me kicked off. Interesting how a national database doesn't bother many (most?) people, yet they are shocked when someone actually has their data...

To paraphrase an old saw: "A dossier on one person is an outrage, dossiers on 300,000,000 people is a statistic."

Glad SOMEONE "got it".

[thepitts]

Seems to me this is more about what some future admin. could do with such things as the USA Patriot Act.

W's real legacy.