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To: A.J.Armitage
"1) You have demonstrated your lack of honesty by not retracting."

I have yet to see anything that would convince me that McVeigh was anything but a Christian. He sought God's forgiveness prior to his execution. Being Baptized into the Holy Church makes him a Christian, it isn't a reversible thing...unless you are excommunicated. A good Christian he wasn't, not even a practicing one, but he accepted the Sacrament before being executed...the act of a Christian.

Your second point is too long to post, so I will just answer it by saying "what in the hell are you mumbling about?"

"...the crude racial reductionism, that white Americans automatically count as Christians, is actually yours."

Wanna bet?

Do you think that the next time that Islamic terrorists strike a bunch of Americans, they will ask first who are the Christians in the group, and who are not?

Hardly.

That's my exact point, all westeners are "infidels", any white American will be a minion of "The Great Satan", and atheists will be put to death just like Christians if ever Islamic troops invade the US.

239 posted on 11/25/2002 7:02:47 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I have yet to see anything that would convince me that McVeigh was anything but a Christian.

This, after you've seen McVeigh quoted as describing himself as an agnostic, not a Christian.

If you were willing to honest consider it, you'd have persuaded already. You're simply dishonest.

Being Baptized into the Holy Church makes him a Christian, it isn't a reversible thing...unless you are excommunicated.

Nope, sprinkling water on someone does exactly nothing to determine what that person's beliefs will be.

A good Christian he wasn't, not even a practicing one, but he accepted the Sacrament before being executed...the act of a Christian.

And this retroactively changes his agnostic views?

That's my exact point, all westeners are "infidels", any white American will be a minion of "The Great Satan", and atheists will be put to death just like Christians if ever Islamic troops invade the US.

Your "exact point" was that we shouldn't blame Islam for the fact that the enemies trying to destroy our civilization are all Muslims, or even get suspicious that something might be wrong with the religion, because McVeigh was, you falsely said, a Christian. Can't you even be honest about that?

And, to reply to your "point", such as it is, the fact that they'd gladly kill all of us doesn't mean they can't tell the difference between a Christian and an agnostic. And even if they couldn't, we can. McVeigh called himself an agnostic. He acted like an agnostic. Except, possibly, at the very end he was an agnostic.

An agnostic blew up the federal building in Oklahoma.

261 posted on 11/25/2002 7:19:01 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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