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LITTLE WHITE LIES (Administration tells about Islam)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | November 22, 2002 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 11/24/2002 7:38:43 PM PST by Keyes For President

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To: Luis Gonzalez
Christians do not have to be perfect all their lives, they just have to seek forgiveness.

We're not talking about imperfections, or sins. He stopped being a Christian. Period. If he came back, that doesn't retroactively change what he believed his whole adult life up to that point.

Do yo know what was in McVeigh's heart when he prayed?

No, but I do know his religious beliefs when he committed the bombing, because HE DESCRIBED THEM.

"If I am going to hell" To acknowledge the presence of Hell, is to admit to the existance of Heaven.

*IF*. He just said that an afterlife was a possibility, and then used the word if in talking about it. That's how an agnostic talks about life after death. Even Bill Clinton would admit he was wrong at this point.

He was Baptized into the Church sir. What do you think that means?

Exactly nothing.

An agnostic blew up the federal building in Oklahoma.

Calling him a Christian terrorist is dishonest.

241 posted on 11/25/2002 7:04:29 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: home educate
Side?

Trying to estimate how many Mulsims there are puts me on one side or another?

Post your figures, and links to substantiating documents.

242 posted on 11/25/2002 7:04:57 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: A.J.Armitage
Whatever helps you sleep.
244 posted on 11/25/2002 7:05:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Keyes For President
"quest for a final solution "

Love that "final solution" talk.

245 posted on 11/25/2002 7:07:21 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Now, the problem with the whole idea of turning this into some sort of Islam vs. Christianity thing is absurd, because it calls for actual civil war. You would be declaring war on American citizens, native born and immigrant alike.

What are you talking about? I was merely mocking the claim that there are 2 billion Muslims in the world, as I still do.

246 posted on 11/25/2002 7:09:15 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There are about ten million Muslims in the US. If everything that is said about them is true, they should have been causing a lot more trouble than they have been all these years.

I don't believe all of them are the fanatics people would like to make them out to be.
OR...they have been restrained because they live in the presense of a far more powerful and affluent Christian society...and they see that unlike the Euro-whimps...Americans..Christian and non-Christian alike are some tough cookies who are ready and willing to kick their butts if they dare try pushing us around and trying their terrorists threats on us.
The fact is, Muslims attack innocent and unsuspecting civilians because they are cowards. They are afraid of standing up to tough and independant gun-toting Americans.

247 posted on 11/25/2002 7:09:17 PM PST by Jorge
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To: deport
What's funny about these trolls, is that they are willing to fault close to two billion Muslims for the attacks on 9/11, but refuse in turn to acknowledge that McVeigh was one of us.

Talk to you later.
248 posted on 11/25/2002 7:09:19 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Having said that, you want to pick a fight with one billion people?

One or two? Lol...

250 posted on 11/25/2002 7:10:20 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
"Mocking?"

You still have nothing to substantiate your claim that there are not close to two billion Muslims in the world?

251 posted on 11/25/2002 7:10:49 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Yes, I do. Read #250. LOL!
252 posted on 11/25/2002 7:12:11 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
I was pointing out that even the lower figure promoted by that poster was a significant number.

Got a link for me yet?

253 posted on 11/25/2002 7:12:33 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Senator Pardek
Public school graduate I see.
255 posted on 11/25/2002 7:13:11 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There are about ten million Muslims in the US.

LOL - good grief. Even the most evil Muslim-American organizations does not lie like that.

256 posted on 11/25/2002 7:15:10 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Pardek! You're the guy that posted numbers with no links showing 1.1 billion Muslims in the world close to six years ago, with a growth rate of 5-10 percent annually.

Do the math, borrow some fingers if you have to.

257 posted on 11/25/2002 7:17:20 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Senator Pardek
Come on Pardek, post anything at all to refute anything at all.

Anything.

258 posted on 11/25/2002 7:18:22 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There are about ten million Muslims in the US.

Do you stand by that?

259 posted on 11/25/2002 7:18:22 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: RLK
"world-wide pestilance of Islam."

Time for some anger management? Or maybe a FR admin voice?

260 posted on 11/25/2002 7:18:30 PM PST by bribriagain
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