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LITTLE WHITE LIES (Administration tells about Islam)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | November 22, 2002 | Thomas Fleming

Posted on 11/24/2002 7:38:43 PM PST by Keyes For President

"From the mountains of Afghanistan to the valleys of Bosnia to the plains of Africa to the forests of Asia and around the world we are on the ground working with our Muslim partners to expand to the circle of peace, the circle of prosperity, the circle of freedom." Secretary of State Colin Powell, in pronouncing these glorious phrases (we hope he did not actually break precedent and write them himself) sounded like a Fourth of July orator invoking the rock-bound cliffs of Maine and the sunny shores of California.

Secretary Powell is apparently unaware that there are forests in Africa and plains in Asia, but the myopia is pardonable when you are running circles around the rest of the world. What the secretary would prefer not to bring up is the fact that in both Africa and Asia Muslims, many of them funded by "pro-Western" governments and oil sheiks, are engaged in a genocidal massacre of Christians. Presumably the genocide in Nigeria and the Sudan is not the partnership Secretary Powell envisions, presumably the Islamic terrorism in Indonesia and the Philippines is somewhat outside the circle. In Bosnia, where the United States supported an Islamic that wanted to impose Islamic law on a Christian majority, one of our Muslim partners was none other than Osama bin Laden.

Not content with repeating the palpable absurdities that are the staple of the multiculturalist left--a critic of the administration would use harsher language--Powell went on to describe plans to bring more Muslims into the United States and to excoriate those who sing "the siren song of the bigots, extremists who cloak themselves in false spirituality in an attempt to divide and to weaken us." Whether he was talking about Osama bin Laden or Pat Robertson (guilty recently of hinting that Islam may not be entirely a religion of peace), was not entirely clear upon the first reading of the AP report of Powell's address to a group of Muslim leaders. But if by "bigots and extremists," Powell means Muslims who claim religious support for terrorism against Christians, then he should have named the man who introduced this belief into Islamic thought: Muhammad himself.

We all know that the Bush administration is caught between a rock and a hard place. They are going to war against a country full of Muslims (Iraq), supporting what may be Bibi Netanyahu's quest for a final solution of the Palestinian problem, while still wanting to make nice with oil-rich states we pretend to believe are "moderate." There is nothing moderate, from the Christian point of view, about Saudi Arabia, which forbids Christian symbols and preaching the gospel and funds anti-Christian Islamic movements around the globe. Saudi Arabia spawned Osama bin Laden--and the Saudi millionaires who continue, according to reports, to support him.

Pat Robertson has the issue right. He knows that Islam, despite the existence of millions of "bad" Muslims who reject some of the fundamental tenets of their faith, is a religion of war not peace, that any country with a sizable population of even bad Muslims contains a ticking time bomb, ready to go off in hard times when confused people begin looking for their spiritual roots. When Christians find their roots, they find the Prince of Peace. When Muslims rediscover theirs, it is Muhammad the terrorist.

I wish no ill to Muslims, either as human beings or as adherents of a religion I reject. I would like to leave Muslims alone, in exchange for being left alone. I do not support, at this point, the planned invasion of Iraq, and I agree with the many patriotic Israelis who realize that Sharon and Netanyahu, egged on by their supporters in the United States, may well bring about the total destruction of Israel. I cannot, however, swallow the lie that Islam, as a religion, is compatible with our Western way of life or that global terrorism is not a legitimate expression of authentic Islam.

So long as America's political leaders continue to treat the people as children, so long as they continue to misrepresent the most basic facts of the life-and-death struggle confronting America and the West, our foreign policy will be confused and dangerous, and our control of our own borders and destiny will become more tenuous with every passing day.

Telling fairy tales about a nonexistent partnership with terrorists in order to justify the importation of more Muslims may seem, to State Department staffers and gofers, like a brilliant move. In the short run it might bump President Bush from being, at the moment, the most popular Republican in the century-and-a-half history of his party to being the most popular Republican who will ever live. But in telling their little white lies, they are playing with fire, as many a parent has learned after lying to his children. When the time comes to ask the American people to defend their borders and their interest from a global jihad, these lies will inevitably come back to haunt them.

P.S. Our Muslim Partners Expand the Circle

Nigeria is in "the forests of Africa," where Colin Powell says our Muslim partners are "expanding the circle of peace." The past few days, however, our Muslim partners in Kaduna (a large town in northern Nigeria), have not been listening to Secretary Powell's speeches: They were too busy killing Christians and burning their churches.

The trouble started when a newspaperman, knowing the Prophet's eye for beauty, suggested that Mohammed himself would have approved of the Miss World Contest. To protest this affront, Muslims (no, not radical Islamicists, but Muslims) first burned down the newspaper and then went on a killing spree that left more than 100 people dead and 500 injured. Some of the victims--all or mostly Christians, so far as we can tell--had been stabbed first and then set on fire. According to the AP story, "hordes of young men, shouting "Allahu Akhbar," or "God is great," ignited makeshift street barricades made of tires and garbage, sending plumes of black smoke rising above the city." Although it is now that Muslims started the riot and destroyed at least four churches, a later AP story, published in the Washington Post, preferred to give the impression that Christians were to blame for the violence: "In neighborhoods dominated by minority Christians...youths smashed windows and set fires in mosques used by the ethnic Hausa and Fulani Muslims who dominate Kaduna."

Kaduna, though the majority of the population is Muslim, has a sizeable Christian minority. Of course, Christian and pagan Nigerians have fought back against the Muslims' violence, but what Western reporters like to call a civil war or ethnic conflict in northern Nigeria is nothing less than an ongoing genocide. The next time Colin Powell is chatting it up with our Muslim partners, he might ask them about the millions and millions of dollars they have poured into Africa for the sole purpose of exterminating Christianity--and, of course Christians--on that continent.

On the same day Nigerian Muslims were crying "down with beauty," another peaceful Muslim was taken into custody in Indonesia on the charge of plotting the terror-bombing in Bali that claimed 200 victims, and still another peaceful Muslim (Palestinian, this time) tried to blow up a busload of schoolchildren, and still another Palestinian Muslim in nearby Lebanon murdered an American Christian whose sole crime was preaching the Christian gospel of peace.

This has not been an unusual week. Every day around the globe committed Muslims are murdering and massacring Christians, and yet American politicians go on pretending that these criminals are merely a handful of extremists. Only this September, Antony Sullivan--longtime whitewasher of Islamic aggression--called upon President Bush to remove "Sudan from the list of terrorist-sponsoring states, though Dr. Sullivan knows full well that the Sudanese regime has refused to end the orgy of terrorism and violence directed at is own Christian population.

In repeating the mantra that "Islam is a religion of peace," our leaders are acting like children who protect themselves from the bogeymen by pulling the covers up over their heads--except in this case, the bogeymen are real.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; islam; powell; religionofpeace; ropma
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To: Keyes For President
The administration doesn't have to yell "kill the Muslims" nor is anyone advocating that here. But at least they don't have to keep lying to us about Islam being a "religion of peace" or saying that our Muslim partners are "expanding the circle of peace."

Or worse yet, covering up the fact that some members of the House of Saud funded at least a couple of the 9/11 hijackers. If the administration ever does get around to admitting the truth about "our good friends" the Saudis (and I'm not holding my breath), the official explanation will doubtlessly be that a few "rogue" Saudis were responsible.

101 posted on 11/24/2002 10:33:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Texasforever
"God is smiling on us today"

President Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/794904/posts

102 posted on 11/24/2002 10:33:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Bush should refrain from speaking for God also.
104 posted on 11/24/2002 10:35:11 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Got four out of five right, missed the question about the easternmost National capital in Africa.

D'OH!

I guess that's to be expected.
LOL.

4 out of 5 in a 20 question test
Good doorknob material...

105 posted on 11/24/2002 10:36:12 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Texasforever
it's a religious war God is in play in this whole thing
106 posted on 11/24/2002 10:38:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Keyes For President
"Not content with repeating the palpable absurdities that are the staple of the multiculturalist left--a critic of the administration would use harsher language--Powell went on to describe plans to bring more Muslims into the United States and to excoriate those who sing "the siren song of the bigots, extremists who cloak themselves in false spirituality in an attempt to divide and to weaken us." Whether he was talking about Osama bin Laden or Pat Robertson (guilty recently of hinting that Islam may not be entirely a religion of peace), was not entirely clear upon the first reading of the AP report of Powell's address to a group of Muslim leaders. But if by "bigots and extremists," Powell means Muslims who claim religious support for terrorism against Christians, then he should have named the man who introduced this belief into Islamic thought: Muhammad himself."

Powell is a 100%, total, undeniable loser, void of all concience and reality. If this affirmative action clown is in the administration come election time '04, I will actively campaign against this administration. And it will be a grassroots campaign to end all campaigns.
107 posted on 11/24/2002 10:39:44 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: TLBSHOW
it's a religious war God is in play in this whole thing

TLB are you ready to kill all Muslims in the name of God?

108 posted on 11/24/2002 10:40:53 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: All
Response to President Bush's Comments on Islam (PAT ROBERTSON)

patrobertson.com

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/789427/posts
109 posted on 11/24/2002 10:41:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: RLK
Nope, no problem, it is your right to believe as you wish to believe.

However, I wasn't attempting to change the subject at all, I was responding to your statement:

"I don't believe some asshole heard voices from God..."

Now, I know of only one G_d, and I was assuming you did as well, so that "asshole" you spoke about MUST have been either Moses, a Biblical figure, or even Jesus Himself.

Unless of course, you were talking about Muhammed, in which case, you are saying that his G_d IS G_d.

thanks yul!

110 posted on 11/24/2002 10:41:54 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: TLBSHOW
It does appear from reading the Bible that Islam will be the spawning bed from which arises the antichrist, but he will also be a descendant of Abraham. Could it be that by demonizing all of Islam, you/we will accomplish the final radicalization of otherwise peace seeking Moslems?... Surely you don't believe that all Moslems want to annihilate everyone else if they don't forcibly convert, even though their Koran calls for that? Aren't there passages in the OT that you can recall where forced conversion or annihilation was put forth by the ... oh, never mind. I'm spinning my wheels expecting more than 'sound byte' discussion.
111 posted on 11/24/2002 10:43:05 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
ISLAM IS THE ENEMY

The Truth About Islam


A close study of the Quran makes very clear the violent spirit fueling what is being spun as a 'peaceful religion.'


(Ministries Today) Our missionaries working in Islamic countries are often shocked at some of the ideas being promoted in the West about Islam. What we hear in the press is a confusing mix of relativistic propaganda and wishful thinking, so I thought I'd clear the air with some information explained to me by my friends working with Muslims in the Middle East.

First, there are 1 billion Muslims in the world--not 2 billion--as many reporters have falsely reported. The most generous estimate is 1.2 billion.

Second, most Muslims interpret the Quran by the principle of nasikh, which essentially means that the later passages supercede the earlier passages and totally negate them.

The Quran was written over a 22-year period. In the early years, when Muhammad's following was small and he was militarily weak, he wrote the 114 verses that speak of living peacefully with others. By the end of his writing, when he was militarily strong and had a larger following, he penned verses that declare that all infidels must be destroyed or submit to being totally subjected and humiliated.

Sura 9 appears at the beginning of the Quran, but it is one of the last texts written. It declares that all infidels should be killed or completely subjugated. These later verses, which overrule the 114 peaceful verses, are what drive the current jihad movement.

According to Muslim scholars, the Arabic words nasikh and mansukh are both derived from the same root word nasakha, which carries meanings such as “to abolish, to replace, to withdraw, to abrogate.” The nasikh (an active participle), “the abrogating,” while mansukh (passive) means “the abrogated.” In technical language, then, mansukh refers to certain parts of the Quranic revelation that has been “abrogated” by the others. In other words, for fundamentalist Muslims, the most virulent passages of their sacred text have priority.

So, when we Westerners talk about Islam by quoting the early “revelations,” we are not communicating the truth about fundamentalist Islam and the Quran but are actually inoculating and misleading those within our spheres of influence against the true nature of Islam. No doubt, a few Muslim scholars have tired to negate the “annihilate the infidel” passages, but their arguments are weak, convoluted, unconvincing and considered non-mainstream to the most vocal and influential fundamentalist Muslim scholars throughout the world.

These scholars are the equivalent of those in liberal Christianity who try to manipulate the Bible to make a case for homosexual marriage or “save the whales” instead of “save the people” ideologies. These liberal interpretations are, to most of us, easily identifiable distortions of the biblical text. Likewise, many Muslims view the peace-loving Muslim clerics the way we would view our own liberal theologians.

Al-Hazar University in Egypt, the highest regarded Muslim theological seminary, teaches the nasikh principle and its inevitable application to jihad. Most of the radicalized leaders have been trained there, including Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman, the blind cleric who is imprisoned in Minnesota for his role in the World Trade Center bombing in 1993.

Simply put, it’s time for all of us to learn more details about Islam. As we do, we’ll discover that the sinister spirit of violence and hatred that inflames so many fundamentalist Muslims is indeed the attitude taught in the Quran.


http://www.patrobertson.com/Features/ted_haggard.asp


112 posted on 11/24/2002 10:46:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Unless of course, you were talking about Muhammed,

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Who in the hell did you think I was talking about, Lyndon Johnson? Read the date.

113 posted on 11/24/2002 10:46:46 PM PST by RLK
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To: 11B3; Luis Gonzalez; Texasforever; TLBSHOW; oldglory; the_doc
"There will be no stopping average Americans from the summary execution of each and every Muslim in the US. We'll run out of light poles or rope and have to resort to just shooting them."

Are you a professing Christian???

That sort of ignorant, stupid talk gives a black eye to the The Christian religion and to this Free Republic forum. You only speak for the KOOK minority who post here, thank God.

114 posted on 11/24/2002 10:49:33 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: 11B3
Let's see these "moderates" put a muzzle on their rabid brothers

I'm not betting on it. The "moderate" Germans during the Third Reich were either completely silent about the atrocities or went along for the ride and just "followed orders" (with a few brave exceptions, of course). I fully expect Muslims to follow this formula, and so far they have. Of course the religious component and sheer numbers of Muslims makes the comparison far from exact.

One of these so-called "moderate" Muslims was on the tube the other day spouting off about how he believes only 1% of the world's Muslim population was capable of committing terrorist acts. Assuming his numbers are correct (although I think they're probably a bit on the low side), 1% of the Muslims in the world is 13 million Muslims. A frightening figure.

115 posted on 11/24/2002 10:50:26 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Muhammed was a cult leader to a false religion called Islam!
116 posted on 11/24/2002 10:50:36 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Matchett-PI
Amazing huh?
117 posted on 11/24/2002 10:50:56 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Keyes For President
What a non-sequiter that is.

Right on! Some people will defend Bush for anything. Of course, he keeps lying about nature of Islam to protect his Saudi royal buddies.

118 posted on 11/24/2002 10:51:51 PM PST by Satadru
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To: Matchett-PI
I do not agree with that! Correct he is wrong.
119 posted on 11/24/2002 10:53:38 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Satadru
Of course, he keeps lying about nature of Islam to protect his Saudi royal buddies.

It is all about oil right?

120 posted on 11/24/2002 10:53:58 PM PST by Texasforever
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