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FReepers Against Voter Fraud
November20, 2002 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/20/2002 2:30:31 PM PST by sweetliberty

"The right of citizens to vote and have their vote count is the cornerstone of our democracy - the necessary precondition of government of the people, by the people and for the people. Enforcing the laws that guarantee voting rights and punish voting fraud is the duty of the Department of Justice. More than mere law enforcement, our responsibility to protect the access to and integrity of elections is the responsibility of upholding freedom itself.

America is a nation whose founding documents and most inspired words uphold the ideal of democratic self-government as a model for the world. The opening phrases of the Declaration of Independence declare that governmental power, if it is to be just, must be derived from the consent of the governed. The Constitution begins, purposefully and deliberately, with these three words: "We the people . . ."

America has failed too often to uphold the right of every citizen's vote, once cast, to be counted fairly and equally. Votes have been bought, voters intimidated and ballot boxes stuffed. The polling process has been disrupted or not completed. Voters have been duped into signing absentee ballots believing they were applications for public relief. And the residents of cemeteries have infamously shown up at the polls on election day.

Today, it is more important than ever before that we embrace the privilege that makes us unique among the peoples, nations and societies of human history. Our way of life is not a given, and our freedom is not an accident. Liberty is a rare gift for which millions have worked and suffered and sacrificed and died. It now falls to us to guard this gift from those who would destroy it. It falls to us, the free, to ensure that the cornerstone of our freedom - government of the people, by the people, and for the people - does not perish from the earth."

(Excerpted from remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft at the Voting Integrity Symposim - October 8, 2002)

It has been quite a month and overall a victorious one for Republicans. The new year looms bright on the horizon with the promise of much needed changes taking place now that we have the majority in both the House and Senate and with the opportunity to finally have some conservative judges seated who will uphold the Constitution rather than legislating the socialist agenda of the Democrats from the bench and Tiny Tommy Daschle and his obstructionist thugs have been spanked soundly and sent to their room in a manner of speaking.

While we had several days of delirious gloating, drunk on the thrill of a hard earned and well-deserved victory, we know all too well that the election and the events leading up to it were not without incident and once again the deck was stacked against us as the Democrats tried every trick in the book in a shameless effort at stealing yet another election. With the blatant disregard for the law so characteristic of them when it obstructs their designs, they managed to get a liberal kangaroo court to uphold the replacement of Torricelli on the ballot in New Jersey beyond the legal deadline for doing so for no other reason than having determined that the scandal and corruption surrounding Torricelli rendered him incapable of winning. In Minnesota, prior to Paul Wellstone's ill-fated final flight, a plan was uncovered that had Democrats busing in students from out of state to take advantage of Minnesota's same day voter registration and vote illegally for Paul Wellstone. Even as this was being revealed, the campaign was underway to push a similar same day registration legislation in Colorado and California, thereby opening new opportunities for illegal voting in those states. In South Dakota Democrat operatives (sorry, I cannot bring myself to use the word "Democratic") paid a field worker in excess of $12,000 over a period of 3 months to register native Americans on the reservations. It was later discovered that many registration cards that had been turned in by that worker had been written in the same handwriting. Among the newly registered was at least one who was recently deceased. This and other irreglarities that were uncovered in South Dakota has led to 1 out of 10 ballots there being under investigation. Fish need water, plants need sunshine, an addict needs a fix and Democrats need power and these three cases are just samples of the extent to which they will go to get it.

The idea for this thread was born following the Arkansas Hog Wild FReepers' discovery of organized intimidation tactics on the part of Democrat and NAACP operatives in Jefferson County, Arkansas as relayed by FReeper, stop_the_rats, a Republican poll watcher who gained undesired and unfair national notoriety during early voting, and by a Republican campaign worker who "infiltrated" the Clinton led, pre-election campaign "event" there. The original story was posted as part of the after-FReep report with more detail added in a post-election update. The story generated such outrage that the thread turned into a FReeper brainstorm as we labored over how we might counteract the dishonest methods employed by the Democrats to hijack elections. The effort yielded an abundance of references and it was generally agreed that voter fraud is, or at least should be, of great concern to all of us. There is a strong probability that the South Dakota election was stolen and in Arkansas the fraud machine was spinning out of control and may well have cost Tim Hutchinson his senate seat as well, despite the shadow cast over him in the wake of his divorce and remarriage. Chances are that we'll never know. Thankfully neither of these races ended up being the tie-breaker that would determine the balance of power in the Senate, but either could have been and had that been the case, you can bet it would have gotten really ugly and may have produced an entirely different outcome.

Even as the Democrats are still licking their wounds and wondering what on Earth happened on November 5, they are already scrambling and scheming and conniving as to ways to prevent our intercepting their next power grab in 2004. This is revealed in their ongoing efforts to block any attempt to validate a voter's legitimacy whether it be by requiring a legal form of ID at the polls, the repeal of motor voter legislation, cracking down on absentee balloting and early voting, doing away with same day registration or by the presence of poll watchers at polling places. In every case they play the race card crying "black voter intimidation" when in reality they are simply thrashing against the net that could trap those guilty of voting illegally thereby inhibiting travel on their familiar roads of voter fraud. Thankfully, Republicans were more diligent this year and undoubtedly made an impact. More questionable ballots were challenged, more questions raised, more accountability called for and more light shed on irregularities. Until recently, prosecution for voter fraud has been virtually unheard of, but that is starting to change. There have been hundreds of stories published over the past several weeks relating to voting irregularities and credible allegations of fraud. Some have led to criminal charges being filed and still others have led to investigations which are ongoing. While it is unlikely that all election fraud can be stopped, it is much harder for it operate under a spotlight, which is exactly why we must each do our part to make sure that the spotlight stays on those "shadowy" recesses where voting machines mysteriously vanish, ballot boxes are obscured from view and the demons of electoral darkness run amok.

It was suggested that the opening remarks of Attorney General John Ashcroft be used as the basis of our mission statement for this thread. In these precarious times when we are at war and we are threatened daily by terrorism, our liberty has become more precious than ever and we must be vigilant to protect it not only from foreign invaders, but also from those who would erode it from within by compromising the integrity of our elections. In order to succeed in a battle it is essential to know the enemy and attack at the point of greatest vulnerability. Included here is a list of links, which while by no means exhaustive, can serve to enlighten. Many of these stories are from Arkansas only because this was the springboard for this thread and we look forward to other FReepers adding stories from their own areas as well as any based in personal experience. The original thread also produced a wealth of resources as we discussed who we should contact if we became aware of voting irregularities or suspected fraud. Again the list of links is far from comprehensive and additions are welcome. Of course the whole point of this exercise is to get more conservative voters involved in changing the laws to close loopholes which make it easy to cheat, to promote the enforcement of existing election laws and to take part in the election process at the local level all with the goal of intercepting future fraud campaigns. In other words our goal is to STOP THE RATS FROM HIJACKING THE ELECTION PROCESS AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

Many thanks to all the wonderful FReepers who contributed their time, energy and ideas to produce the foundation for this thread:

kcvl; kayak; zeaal; demosthenes the elder; terriergal; Brad's Gramma; Budge; TheLion; backhoe; ForGod'sSake; Congressman Billybob; nicmarlo; Ragtime Cowgirl; to ST.LOUIE1 for his graphics and of course to Jim Robinson who has given us this great forum and sense of purpose. A very special thanks and salute goes out to stop_the_rats for her patriotism and tenacity in facing down the enemy within. She is a warrior of whom we should be proud. What a great screen name AND battle cry for the mission of this thread!

Awareness- know thy enemy! If any of these links become outdated many of these articles are posted on the original FReep thread. If you let me know via FReepmail, I will make editorial adjustments accordingly before renewing the thread.

It's Voter Fraud Season Again!

The Nagging Problem of Election Fraud

Voter Fraud: Can It Be Stopped?

The Greatest Cover-up Of All: Vote Fraud In America

The Motor Voter Act and Voter Fraud

Absentee Ballot Fraud among Democrats in Florida an Old Story

An election scam

Should We Take Voter Fraud as Seriously as Business Fraud?

Voter Reform: Why Are Democrats Opposed To A Photo ID to Vote?

More allegations of vote fraud surface

Two convicted of voter fraud get probation

Voter Fraud In Arkansas (2000)

FRAUD in Arkansas!!! Voters Illegally Casting Ballots 2 Weeks Early in Organized Effort by Dems (2000)

Arkansan pleads guilty in vote fraud

Investigators Look Into Another Vote Fraud Case

1,000 Republican Students Denied Right to Vote

Arkansas GOP charges vote fraud

Missing Voting Mechanism Recovered

The Democrats Lost Ugly

Looking Back On Tuesday's Election Problems

The Oglala Sioux's Senator

Let’s Hear It for Fraud – And REAL Soon

Ghost Precincts

The Vote Fraud Archives

Need Vote Fraud articles, stories, and evidence? Here's a source...

Access One reason the Democrats get away with as much as they do is because they make a lot of noise. It is time WE make some noise of our own. There are a number of individuals, organizations and media sources who support our Constitution and seek to protect the integrity of our elections. Here are a few of them. Rather than clutter the body of this thread with a long list of email addresses, I will post the websites. Most of these have contacts and email addresses on them.

Department of Justice Voting Rights Home Page

FBI

American Conservative Union

Eagle Forum

Eagle Forum of Arkansas

The Heritage Foundation

ACLJ

Fox News

Drudge Report

Rush Limbaugh

Hugh Hewitt

Election Law Below is a very brief list of some election laws and guidelines which we have referenced recently. I am sure this section will grow considerably as others add their contributions.

Arkansas Election Code

Arkansas Election Faqs

State Requirements For Voter ID

Texas Pollwatcher's Guide

Vote Fraud and Election Issues (Lots of Links)

Limitations On Lawyers

Reporting Unlicensed Lawyers

Action What can FReepers do? For starters we can identify states that will have key races in the 2004 election. Is your state one of them? Let's start getting important information about the race, the candidates, the electoral history of the state, the laws in that state and how open they may leave the process to tampering, history of voter fraud in the state, conservative media outlets there, and whatever else you can think of that might be relevant to equip the electorate to head off problems in advance.

Democrats LIE! Their biggest and most effective lie is that Republicans are deliberately trying to prevent blacks and/or other minorities from voting. In effect, they're calling us racists. The truth is that it is them who seem to consider blacks and other minorities so inferior and ignorant and lackiing in initiative that they are incapable of voting without the benefit of THEIR "guidance" and "protection". Their greatest fear is that blacks will recognize how badly they've been duped and insulted by these people and leave the party in droves. We need to work with that. Black conservatives have perhaps the greatest responsibility for telling other black voters the truth about the Democrat party, although it is certainly something we should all work on.

Talk about election fraud. Bring it up whenever an opportunity presents itself. Keep a notebook at all times and if someone tells you anything pointing to vote fraud, get more details. Write down such things as county, precinct, candidates in the race, name of the witness and whatever else you can think of. If it seems credible, report it to someone.

Take part in the process. Here is a list of suggestions that stop_the_rats posted on another thread:

1. Plan to take election day off in 2004.
2. Be a poll worker. You get paid for this.
3. Be a poll watcher. Call your local Republican headquarters or the campaign office of one of your Republican candidates and volunteer to be a poll watcher.
4. Count absentee ballots. You get paid for this also.
5. Be a poll closer. It's a long day. Some people who can't poll watch because of work, could agree to come after work for 2 hours and close the polls to give poll watchers a break. Get final counts and make sure no "late" voters turn up.
6. Take lunches to poll workers and poll watchers.
7. Man the headquarters so if problems arise, poll workers or watchers have a place to call for help. Have a list of numbers: local election officals, state officals.
8. Find a person who will agree to "be in charge" of all the rules poll watchers and poll workers need to follow. Each state has rules and in some cases, state election representatives will come to your city and give a presentation.
9. Encourage others to get involved.
10. Smile; we have them worried!

Some might want to take it a step furthur, if that is an option in your area, and be an election judge. Or you may have specific talents and training that you could donate to the cause, such as legal assistance and advice.

Finally; ask questions. FReepers have an uncanny ability to ask the right questions in most any situation AND to find answers and we have an inexhaustable resource right here on Free Republic. Here are just a few questions to start with.

"If fraud is suspected, how do we find out who is behind it?"

"How do we work to get cooperation between poll watchers and workers and clarify expectations on all sides BEFORE an election?"

"How can you prove fraud? What is legal in a given state (photos, tape recording, witness statements, compiling a list of names, video taping)?"

And last, but certainly not least, pray!

"If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:14)

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord" (Psalm 33:12a)

FReepers; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get out there and STOP THE RATS!


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To: nicmarlo
"RATS Smell!!"
(To be sung to Lynyrd Skynyrd's "That Smell")

Loose-lipped hotties...and Chi-Com Whores...
Constitution's in Left's way!!
RATS're fear and smoke's simply a joke...
Look what's going on, you RAT Fools!!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
Can't you smell RATS' smell?!!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
The stench of death surrounds you!! YEEEEEEaaaaaaahhhh!!

Limbaugh's Legions are upon you...
Folks shall FReep Slick 'til he's GONE!!
So take another toke, have a blow fer yer nose...
'Til Left thinks, Right shall drown you!! HELL, YEAH!!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
Can't you smell that smell?!
Ooooh...Libs smell!!
Vionce Foster's Death condemns you!!

Lib'rals call Slick "Prince Charming"...
He'll squeal'n'purr when cellmates find Slick's groove.
Think you'll be all right with all yer money...
But tomorrow, Dwight shall be buggerin' you!!
Ooooh...Slick'll squeeeeeal!!
Won't you help US tell?!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
Ol' Ron Brown's Death astounds you!!

Slick, yer a fool, dude!!
Yep, Right'll FReep ya 'til yer gone!!
We know yer a Treas'nous Whore!!

One little problem that confronts you
Got Ol' Mudboy on yer back...
Just one more fix, Bill, might do the trick...
One hell of a price for you to get your kicks!!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
I can't stand Left's smell!!
Ooooh...Trash Bill!!
Paul Wellstone's Death was all you!!
Ooooh...Slick smells!!
Right Shall Fight Like Hell!!
Ooooh...RATS smell!!
We'll RE-Impeach'n'Convict You!!

Mudboy Slim

161 posted on 11/22/2002 7:23:12 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: sweetliberty
It was Clinton that did all the "emergency" naturalizations, TWICE if I recall correctly

Yes, Clinton did do that; however, I must wonder what the goal of the Republican party is when they don't want to stop the illegals from coming in? And I have heard speculation from others (darn, I can't remember the names) that the GOP is hoping to benefit from this, politically. (Don't mistake my criticism on this policy as condemnation of the GOP....I just think something's wrong with this picture.)

162 posted on 11/22/2002 7:24:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mudboy Slim
lol, mud, I can't think of that tune!
163 posted on 11/22/2002 7:25:45 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
How 'bout this one then?!

"FReepers"
(To be sung to Lynyrd Skynyrd's "FReeBird")

Left will steal, beg, or borrow...
To protect Ol' Slick Willie!!
But Bill must be travellin' on now...
'Cuz his Treason threatens our Liberty!!
If we condoned Slick's Corruption...
Country wouldn't be the same!!
Righteous must retake this World, now...
And this World shall be remade...oh-oh-oh-ah-oh-ohhhh...
And the Left shall feel our ra-a-a-age...
Lib'rals, bow yer heads in sha-a-a-a-a-ame...
Lord knows, World must cha-a-a-ange...........

[Guitar weepin']

Realize, Willie, you'll go to prison...yeah, yeah...
You're just a Tyrant, you can't change!!
Oh, please don't act like the Victim...
'Cuz Lord knows you're to blame.
Slick, if we condoned your crimes, boy...
Nation wouldn't be the same!!
So we FRee-eep fer the Truth now...
And this World we shall now change...ohh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ahhhh...
And Lib'rals we'll now de-Fame...
And the Medyuh shall be shamed!!!!!
Lord knows it shall change...
Lord, help us, we must cha-a-a-a-a-ange...
Folks, World Shall Change...
Won't ya join the FReeeeee-pers?!! Yeah-eah-eah!!

[Guitar Jammin' to close]

TGIFReegards...Mudboy Slim

164 posted on 11/22/2002 7:32:27 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: demosthenes the elder
"I haven't a clue as to what I have done to merit a special thanks, but I am glad that whatever it may have been was of some use"

You contributed some of the links, however I think I deleted one of them because when I tested it it didn't work anymore, even though it did the first time.

As to your proposal, mostly I like it, but the part about legally gagging the media will never fly. They will blather on under the guise of free speech if they have to make it up.

165 posted on 11/22/2002 7:49:33 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
The Federal government claims ownership and regulatory control over the airwaves. Whether the media like it or not, it could be rammed down their throats.
As to media penalties, I have been pondering that issue for a long time. I do not want to infringe upon free speech, nor do I want to set up a precedent which would allow later folks to do so. However, I am strongly convinced that the broadcast media need to be broken of their bad habits. Such as "reporting" false information, "reporting" their opinions cloaked as fact, "reporting" outright fabrications, etc...
The current libel and slander laws do not work as written.
I would like to see the media punished for every instance they publish falsehood and bias, and punished in a way that will get them where they live.
Possibility: Any time a news outlet publishes information later shown to be false - especially information which could very easily be identified as speculation at the time of publication or could easily have been fact-checked prior to publication - their carrying station(s) should be barred from airing commercials for a length of time exactly equal to the interval between initial airing of the falsehood and the airing of a detailed and abject retraction of the false statement(s).
Think about it...
166 posted on 11/22/2002 8:00:57 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: Budge; stop_the_rats
Thanks for posting that Budge. That is exactly the kind of thing we need posted here to keep us abreast of what is actually being done and what the final result is. I'd appreciate it if you could follow that story and advise us of any updates. I don't get the paper. I would love to hear of something similar in Jefferson County!
167 posted on 11/22/2002 8:01:01 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
BTTT
168 posted on 11/22/2002 8:06:17 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Mudboy Slim

169 posted on 11/22/2002 8:07:41 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Even more alligations of voting irregularities-

Here in Carlisle, WE have a mayor candidate that happens to be a relative of the newly elected RAT State Senator from our town (Glover).

Anyway - The word is, another relative obtained a stack of absentee ballots to take to Bobby Glover's nursing home for the residents to vote. This same relative was to pick them up and deliver them to the courthouse.

You don't think that those ballots could have possibly been screened do you? You think that at least some of the residents were possible not lucid enough to cast a ballot?

We won't even go into the direct threats (including threatending to cut off visitation for a son to visit his mother in the same nursing home. Voter fraud is everywhere folks. It's up to us to stand up to it.
170 posted on 11/22/2002 8:10:22 AM PST by TheBattman
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To: nicmarlo
The truth is that there has been no will on the part of either party to get rid of illegals. While there has been some discussion on the possibility of wooing the more honest and hard-working element of Mexican invaders immigrants to vote for Republicans I think the simplest explanation is that the Republicans see cheap labor to benefit the economy and the Rats see votes...not to mention more social programs that they love so much and therefore an excuse to raise taxes.
171 posted on 11/22/2002 8:13:24 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
Thankyou...thankyouverymuch...MUD
172 posted on 11/22/2002 8:13:34 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: TheBattman
Oh I am absolutely convinced that there nothing so low that they won't stoop to it. Seems like nursing homes and psychiatric hospitals need to be included in the plans for heading them off next time. Maybe some serious appeals to the DOJ (since we are too heavily Rat infested here to trust our own chain of command) to support us in our efforts to put a stop to this kind of vote harvesting would garner some results. Seems it should simply be a matter of contacting the administrators of these facilities and hitting them with the possibility of severe criminal penalties should they allow such axtivity to go unchecked.
173 posted on 11/22/2002 8:25:44 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: nicmarlo
Disturbing what I heard on O'Reilly last night. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Rep., was interviewed re our border problem.

In case anyone's interested, JR weighed in again yesterday with his thoughts on immigration. JR may see something the rest of us don't or vice versa???

...telling Ridge exactly how we feel about OPEN BORDERS FOR POLITICAL AND CULTURAL REASONS.

Immigrants dictating immigration policy? Something wrong with this picture? Immigration, particularly illegal immigration is more than peripherally connected with vote fraud so it has a place on this thread. These people are too easily taken in by the Dim philosophy(Robin Hood?), not unlike our resident air heads, so they are additions to the Dim electorate to the tune of, what, several hundred thousand---a million per year?

And so it goes...

FGS

174 posted on 11/22/2002 8:36:46 AM PST by ForGod'sSake
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To: sweetliberty
South Dakota Dem Hit with Vote Fraud Indictment Hope this is the first of many.
175 posted on 11/22/2002 8:51:30 AM PST by TheLion
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To: demosthenes the elder
DTE, I like what you have so far. However, the question of "stopping free speech" as posted in a couple of replies got me to thinking.

I do not want to infringe upon free speech, nor do I want to set up a precedent which would allow later folks to do so. However, I am strongly convinced that the broadcast media need to be broken of their bad habits.

This is only an idea, but could that part be addressed to exit polling. We all know the disaster caused by 'exit polling' in the 2000 election nation-wide.

Since the 'exit polling' was "broken" during the 2002 election, broadcast media used their own projections which proved to be correct most of the time, and these projections were not broadcast until polls had closed.

Do you think eliminating or broadcasting "exit polling" would be the better way to go on that?

176 posted on 11/22/2002 8:57:16 AM PST by Budge
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To: Budge; demosthenes the elder
"Do you think eliminating or broadcasting "exit polling" would be the better way to go on that?"

I thought that in 2000. They serve no good purpose, and it is obvious that they can cause chaos and interfere with the objectivity necessary to insure the integrity of the process.

177 posted on 11/22/2002 9:12:26 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty; TheBattman; nicmarlo; Mudboy Slim
Just called Rush. I told him ("Snerdly," not Rush) about our efforts here to combat vote fraud and asked "Snerdly" to pass on the information. He sounded interested and said he would. Keep your fingers crossed.
178 posted on 11/22/2002 9:14:35 AM PST by Budge
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To: Budge
That's great budge, I've also sent him pings to this thread, earlier. Though he may not comment, I'm sure he'll monitor.....and keep for future reference (materials from which to draw specific/current info.)
179 posted on 11/22/2002 9:23:44 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
That's why I liked this election so much better....the media could not report any "exit polling info." as their source was down.....things seemed to go much more smoothly across the nation.
180 posted on 11/22/2002 9:24:58 AM PST by nicmarlo
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