[Skywalk]

Did I?

What I was saying in my post is that there IS a place for smoking and smokers, but why when I'm trying to work should I have to deal with smoke in a closed space. Don't let the reasonable arguments you have in favor of smoker's rights turn your mind against EVERY criticism of smoking.

I was responding to parts of her article, especially the ones regarding the smokers huddled outside office buildings. If they should be allowed back inside, where should they be smoking? I certainly don't want to spend all day in a closed space surrounded by smoke. And if they make a smoker's lounge, isn't that making SPECIAL concessions to them?

My dad smoked, and I begged him when I was a child to stop. Know what he finally started to do? He'd go out on the enclosed porch and open a window or sit on the steps. I literally start choking up when someone is smoking and there's obvious strain in my voice. I don't like it unless my sense of smell is articially suppressed(ie drunk) and then its a matter of toleration.

[Restorer]

And if they make a smoker's lounge, isn't that making SPECIAL concessions to them?

I think it's more of a concession to the rest of of us.

[johnny7]

Get a life! God... we have people in the office who do bad impressions for half of the work-day away from their cube and nobody says a thing.

The other half of the day they spend in the kitchen drinking coffee.

But when a smoker goes out to take a couple drags, he/she is frowned upon as a slacker.

[borisbob69]

And if they make a smoker's lounge, isn't that making SPECIAL concessions to them?

Perhaps a better word would be accomodation...after all we are addicts according to some on this forum.

[Brytani]

Oh give me a break here. Isn't it making "Special Consideration" to non-smokers to force those that do smoke into the outdoors, regardless of the weather, to engage in a legal activity? Her point was simple, allowing smoking in offices in a room designated for smoking and well ventilated solves the problems.

As for smokers wasting time, have you considered the very fact that smokers are forces to leave their desks, go outside their buildings to a outside "designated" smoking area is a biggest waste of time? Every smoker I work with takes a shorter lunch to make up for smoke breaks, and most of them work long hours to make up for the time they are forced outside.

I'm sorry you begged your father to smoke and he took it upon himself to leave his own home to appease your tender nostrils. That he listened to you was up to him, that does not give you the right to dictate the behavior of others in society. If you don't want to smell smoke while dining or drinking, go to restaurants/bars where the owners have designated the business as smoke free. The owners should have the right to cater to the clientèle they choose. Not the clientèle liberal whiners dictate are "politically correct" at this point and time.

[GailA]

They should have a special room they can go to with proper ventilatiion, and the anti-smokers can keep their cabooses out of it. It is NOT right or FAIR that they be treated worse than condemed killers.

BTW I don't smoke, nor drink through FREEDOM of CHOICE. But my husband does. We do NOT patronize establishment that do not have smoking sections. You don't like the smell of smoke in our home..then DON'T come over, that would be your FREEDOM of CHOICE.

[laredo44]

I certainly don't want to spend all day in a closed space surrounded by smoke

Then don't. Hopefully, you're not going to assert that some secret police march you to such a space and force you to remain there, are you?

[laredo44]

My dad smoked, and I begged him when I was a child to stop. Know what he finally started to do? He'd go out on the enclosed porch and open a window or sit on the steps.

It appears to me your dad was ten times the man you are.

[philman_36]

And if they make a smoker's lounge, isn't that making SPECIAL concessions to them?
Seems to me I recall companies building whole day care centers for the children of working parents.
If you want to talk about "SPECIAL concessions"... how about those men's and women's restrooms! Whatsupwitdat?
What is wrong with just one big one for everyone? /sarcasm

[HapHaszard]

Sounds like a damn good reason to stay drunk to me.

[captnorb]

So, you accepted the ploy from school.....Smoking will kill you....run home and brow beat your father to expedite his death by moving to the; unheated porch?. What a fine idiotic selfish child.....

[SheLion]

My dad smoked, and I begged him when I was a child to stop.

When "I" was a child, my parents begged ME not to start! LOL! How times change.

[calenel]

"I don't like it unless my sense of smell is articially suppressed(ie drunk) and then its a matter of toleration."

Shame on you! Don't you know how evil alcohol is? It impairs your judgement, damages your liver and brain, and causes you to put yourself and others at risk! Not only that, but drinkers smell from the alcohol their poor abused bodies are desperately trying to dispose of!

Actually, I drink lightly and I smoke. But when I go outside to smoke while at work, I am still working (my job involves figuring out how to do in 10 lines of code what someone else tried to do in 100). I also don't smoke in my own home because I have children in the house (even though the second hand smoke dangers appear to be bunk). Nor do I smoke in someone else's home unless they also smoke and do so in their home. It's only polite.

[potlatch]

And if they make a smoker's lounge, isn't that making SPECIAL concessions to them?

Making them go outside was a SPECIAL concession to YOU!!

[GYPSY286]

Are'nt the smokers making SPECIAL concessions for the non-smokers by having to go outside? I'm a smoker and to hear non-smokers complain about the wasted time for smoke breaks makes me laugh since they were the ones who complained and sent us "outside". Can't have it both ways.