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Please give your take on the liberal disaster.
1 posted on 11/07/2002 4:03:04 PM PST by yooper
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Why Did The Democrats Lose?

Gee, I don't know. They always had such a grand vision of love, freedom, and prosperity. /sarcasm

2 posted on 11/07/2002 4:04:32 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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With an effective Republican Attorney General and a Republican President who were both negatively effected by vote fraud in the last election, the Republicans were motivated to keep the Democrat's vote fraud to a minimum this year.
3 posted on 11/07/2002 4:06:34 PM PST by Freeper 007
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They are wrong on the issues,all of them.
4 posted on 11/07/2002 4:06:47 PM PST by John W
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Why Did The Democrats Lose?

Unfortunately, in the once-great state of Daleyland, they didn't. Ever since the Democrats won the governorship four years ago with the added bonus of doing so under the "Republican" ticket, this state has been an absolute disaster. I just wish someone would come out publically and repudiate King George; he makes Charles Schumer look conservative.

5 posted on 11/07/2002 4:07:51 PM PST by supercat
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1) Emphasis on pet leftist social causes alienated all of Red Nation, many in Blue Nation.
2) No realistic message on current economic minidepression; no plausible explanation of specifically how they'd get us out of it.
7 posted on 11/07/2002 4:09:37 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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Ah...cum'on....that's what they are/do....loosers in word and deed,and certainly in beliefs.....
8 posted on 11/07/2002 4:11:46 PM PST by litehaus
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Through the Homeland Security Agency gridlock, the Democraps were exposed as being sellouts to the labor unions (which give 12 dollars to Democrats for ever 1 dollar given to Republicans). Americans are sick of tax-subsidized federal civil servants, as they are rarely civil and hardly consider themselves to be servants of the public. It's still next to impossible to fire any of them, but President Bush is making it his top priority as is documented at:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/bureaucrats

Go W. Go!
9 posted on 11/07/2002 4:12:33 PM PST by End The Hypocrisy
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It was our national security that won it. Not to mention the Wellstone/DNC rally!

and the fact democrats are stupid commies and evil!

it was not the economy!
10 posted on 11/07/2002 4:14:00 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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Their policies are bad. Americans don't agree with them. People want lower, not higher taxes.

People know Saddam is a huge threat and want him removed, they don't want Carter style diplomacy.

They understand that corruption will not be solved be demagogary, only police work, which the Republicans from Guilliani to Bush seem much better at than Reno and Mary White ever did.

Gun control will not make us safer.

We have enough federal parks and environmental laws.

The reason some people still have problems in America is not that we haven't given enough money to help the poor.

In summary Americans don't agree with many of the Democratic basic policy positions. The Dems choose the most strident supporters of these positions to represent them, which makes the problem worse. Hillary, not Zell Miller is the face of the Dems.

But the root is the policies. This is what politics is all about. The pundits can't get over the tactics and personalities. But the results were too widespread for that to be the deciding factor.

When they start admitting their policies are failed they will be on the track to winning some more elections.

Given how the party is structured, that might be a long time. It turns out Clinton's DLC cat didn't remove the McGovernite rat infestation. And then it turned out the cat was rabid and had fleas. Now they need a big dog to fix it, but instead they have little poodles: Daschle, Hillary, Boxer, Pelosi. They can't even clean out the Clinton faction, much less the green idiots and black panthers who've infested the party.
13 posted on 11/07/2002 4:19:39 PM PST by Jack Black
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More people voted Republican than RAT.
14 posted on 11/07/2002 4:22:19 PM PST by Pushi
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I think the DC Sniper was heaven sent to help the Republican Party keep the US electorate focused on the war on terrorism during the weeks leading up to the election, rather than, say, prescription drugs.

And the denouement, where all the Lefty mass media talking heads who staked their credibility on the NOI's Muhammad being a white Republican, were shown to be abysmally wrong, was the icing on the cake that then wound up on the faces of McAwful and the WH Rapist during their jig on Wellstone's coffin.

15 posted on 11/07/2002 4:23:26 PM PST by Post Toasties
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The core Democratic leadership is composed of angry, bitter, crude, opportunistic, self-serving America-hating marxists. They no longer have Clinton to paper over their malice, and now their evil is seeping out at the seams.

The radical elements of the party have been indulged and they have high expectations. They see standing firm against the USA as their liberal sacrament. The party is totally shot, IMO unless they come up with another shyster.

18 posted on 11/07/2002 4:27:26 PM PST by Monti Cello
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1) Baghdad Bonier and Jihad Jim - Saddam, Saddam, he's our man, if he can't do it no one can.

2)The Wellstone Fune-rally - Yucking it up at a memorial service is too much for any normal person to take.

19 posted on 11/07/2002 4:28:30 PM PST by pbear8
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They lost because they didn't tell anyone where they stood on the issues-they only mounted foolish personal attacks against GOP leaders.

Of course, if they had told voters where they stood on the issues, they would have lost bigger.

Their usual choice, the third option-lie about it-has been made much more difficult by the internet, which allows real-time exposure of the lies at virtually no cost.

Basically, they're screwed. Intellectual enough for ya?

22 posted on 11/07/2002 4:34:29 PM PST by Jim Noble
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For as long I can remember Liberals have had a kind of conditioned response built up in America, where if you did not give thier ideas/dogma every benefit of any real or imagined doubt--you were being unfair--and if you went any further and voiced disagreement, then you're opinion was not suitable for polite company. This control over speach and thought has been cracking open by the sheer weight of the growing absurdity of the Left. Then 9-11 hit, and it woke enough people out of the psychosis to shift the idealogical make up of the nation a few points to the Right. A lot of us sensed this shift, and on the first national election after 9-11 it was evident. Ofcoarse the media is still wrestling with the psychosis, looking for another explination...giving the Left every conceivible real or imagined benefit of the doubt.

Earth to Rats: Go back to the "West Wing" TV show, the real world is taking you less and less seriously every day!

24 posted on 11/07/2002 4:39:11 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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Okay, here's mine. I'm sure others can add lots more than I could remember:

The 'War On Terror':

1. Sending three Democratic US Senators to Iraq to kiss Saddam's ass. Bad idea, especially a month before the election. It's un-American, and cost the Democrats plenty.

2. America's memory of 3000+ people killed by terrorists on worldwide TV is still fresh in their minds. When we retaliate against their leaders with missile-launching Predator drones, it's a bad idea to insist that they should have had defense lawyers and a jury of their peers. Sorry Liberals, but out there in the 'War On Terror' due process is a laser-guided missile.

3. Hundreds of thousands of US troops weren't killed in Afghanistan fighting the 'deadly and undefeated Mujahedin' who supposedly were the worlds fiercest warriors that lived in caves and ate dirt for supper. In fact, they got eaten alive by flying robot bombs and 40-year old US B-52s. The Green Berets even conquered them in a cavalry charge, which is the Mujaheddin's own game. Utter humiliation for the Taliban.

4. Hundreds of thousands of Afghani civilians weren't killed by US bombing. In fact, very few collateral deaths were suffered. The truth is that now girls can smile openly and go to school while the savages that once ruled over them are dodging US-made robot bombs.

In both cases 3 & 4, projecting doom and gloom about the outcome before the results were known was a bad idea. It shows Liberals have neither faith in America nor providence, and are completely full of B.S.

5. Instructing former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle to obstruct the wildly-popular president (77% approval as of November 6th, 2002) at every turn in the War On Terror: Bad idea.

6. America is not Germany, Canada, France, Holland, or any of the other countries where sissies rule the day (Apologies to our Canuck pals). America is for Americans, and we don't pause a moment to consider what a sad childhood any Muslim terrorist may have had. We are only interested in killing them or capturing them if they surrender fast enough when a TV camera is around. Sending Liberals to appear on TV as an advocate for the defense was a bad idea.

The War at Home:

7. Messing with the National Rifle Association. Notice how 14 of the (Sarah) Brady Campaign's 'Dangerous Dozen' all won re-election? The amount of anti-gun Democrat Senators and Congressmen that have gone down to the NRA's election year efforts since 1990 is close to one hundred. Running against the NRA is always a bad idea.

8. Proposing to raise taxes in both a sour economy AND an election year? You mean to tell us that your whole economic plan was 'Tax The Unemployed'? Bad idea.

Poor Taste:

9. A funeral for a Democratic US Senator that died with his family in a tragic plane crash is not an occasion to invite 10,000 U of Minn college students and ply them with free beer. It's not a place for Bill Clinton to sign the thighs of college coeds with a felt-tip pen, to blow horns, drop confetti, or release balloons. It's not a campaign stop. It should look like a memorial service. When eight people die, it's not the time to play Fleetwood Mac's 'Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow'. Americans don't like it, and were shocked to consider that the Liberals would have acted the same way even if Paul Wellstone's body would have been in the same room. By contrast, Norm Coleman's acceptance speech looked more like a fitting memorial to Paul Wellstone. Admit it, you Liberals aren't from this world, are you? Wellstone's 'memorial service', covered by the network TV cameras, was a very bad idea.

10. 'Building The Bridge To The Twenty-First Century' should not include washed-up old has-beens like Walter Mondale who's been wearing sweaters that smell like mothballs for twenty years. Mondale is the man that tried with all his might to kill the NASA Apollo program in the mid-1960s after three brave men died in an accident. With pussies like him in charge, America would never have gone to the Moon. That's the man Democrats had in mind for leading America into the 21st Century? Fitting and expected coming from Liberals, but a very bad idea.

11. On the subject of failed politicians, it's time to tell the Democrats that Bill Clinton is the kiss of death. Every candidate he's flown in to campaign for since the year 2000 loses in a landslide. Face it Dems, the Clinton Era is over. Most Americans think 'Clinton' and want to barf. Don't believe me? Look at the scoreboard. Having Clinton campaign for you is a bad idea.

12. Attack campaigning is a loser idea, especially when your candidate is dirtier than their opponent to begin with. There's a special place in Hell for those who accuse their enemies of their own worst crimes. Attack campaigning is a bad idea.

The Future:

13. Turning further politically Left is a recipe for disaster. Ignoring my kind advice is a bad idea.

14. Believing George W. Bush to be an idiot dunce who cheated his way into the White House with the help of his daddy's money is self-prescribed BS that Democrats should have gotten over before New Years Day 2001. He's outsmarted every single Democrat in the nation fair and square, as well as most pundits. Running a campaign as the 'Anti-Bush' is a bad idea.at your own peril.

27 posted on 11/07/2002 4:39:48 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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The Dems lost because the Republicans are better. I don't think the country sees them as trustworthy. If they hadn't cheated we would probably have more Republicans in the Senate.
28 posted on 11/07/2002 4:40:38 PM PST by dalebert
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9-11.
32 posted on 11/07/2002 4:45:28 PM PST by Johnny Shear
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Why Did The Democrats Lose?

Because they're losers.

35 posted on 11/07/2002 4:49:55 PM PST by South40
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my two cents:

The dems positions are old and not attractive to the public. Affirmative Action is over as is telling minority groups the government will take care of them.

The dems have no platform on the economy except to oppose specific repub initiatives. Don't have the vision thing.

The dems a corrupt. Many examples posted on FR.

The dems are not well manners. Running to court on every election issue is pissing off the public. The "memorial" service speaks for itsself. The constant calling Bush dumb and saying he's not really president is getting old even amonst some liberals.

lastly, we declared war about a year ago and Bush is into it. Some dems and demonstartors oppse this. Most of the country is worried about national defense and in my mind want more done. So many dems miss out here. People like Lieberman do themselves well when they back Bush on this stuff.

37 posted on 11/07/2002 4:50:48 PM PST by breakem
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