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Damn Dirty Democrats
The Weekly Standard ^ | 11/04/2002 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 11/03/2002 9:12:28 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78
Once the party of JFK and FDR, the Democrats are now the party of dirty tricks.

It's not exactly that Demos have been following Marquis of Queensbury rules. Remember 1960?

Minnesota’s Senator Hubert Humphrey was a leading candidate against John Kennedy in the primaries. He didn’t have any problem identifying JFK’s major asset: “I don’t have any daddy who can pay the bills for me. I can’t afford to run around this state (West Virginia) with a little black bag and a checkbook. I don’t think elections should be bought. They’re spending with wild abandon.”

Evidence suggested Humphrey knew what he was talking about. A Baltimore Sun reporter claimed he saw votes bought. Rumors surfaced that one of Kennedy’s brothers-in-law had withdrawn all the $1 bills from a Charleston bank to buy votes. Humphrey even hired a former FBI agent to look into the matter.

The editor of the Logan Banner claimed the West Virginia primary was “one of the most corrupt elections in county history” and payoffs “ranged anywhere from $2 and a drink of whiskey to $6 and two pints of whiskey for a single vote.”

Kennedy’s forces hit back at Humphrey, suggesting he was a draft dodger during World War II. That wasn’t accurate; Humphrey had a deferment, as many fathers of three children did. When he volunteered for the Navy he failed the physical. These facts were irrelevant to JFK backer Franklin Roosevelt, Jr.: “There’s another candidate in your primary. He’s a good Democrat, but I don’t know where he was in World War II.”

Although officially “disapproving” of bringing up his opponent’s lack of military service, candidate Kennedy said that no one had contributed more to an honest discussion of the issues than his pal Roosevelt.

Robert Kennedy, his brother’s manager, asserted Teamster boss Jimmy Hoffa was backing Humphrey. Hubert’s response was, “This is just cheap, low-down, gutter politics.”

The Kennedys liked tossing Hoffa’s name around. They later claimed Hoffa was backing Senate majority leader Lyndon Johnson. The Texan denounced the rumors as “constant, crude efforts to smear candidates by association.” He also noted the Kennedys had “been running against Mr. Hoffa for several years now. . . the closer we get to the nomination, the hotter their breath becomes.”

Lyndon was not going to be outdone in the dirty politics department, of course. He attacked JFK's father: “I never thought Hitler was right. I was never any (Neville) Chamberlain umbrella man.” Johnson campaign chief John Connally called a press conference to announce John Kennedy was hiding the fact he suffered from Addison’s Disease.

Not wanting to miss out on the action, old war-horse Harry Truman decided to get his licks in. Charging Kennedy used unfair tactics and money to win the nomination, Mr. Truman asked: “Senator, are you certain that you are quite ready for the country, or that the country is ready for you in the role of President in January 1961?”

As I said, Demos haven't been following the Marquis of Queensbury rules for quite a while.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

61 posted on 11/04/2002 7:16:51 AM PST by mikeb704
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To: Joe Brower; PhiKapMom; Liz; Mudboy Slim; Mo1; Miss Marple
To paraphrase Julia Roberts:

Democrat: In the dictionary between 'Defraud' and 'Deranged'.

62 posted on 11/04/2002 7:20:21 AM PST by Fracas
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To: Joe Brower; All; seekthetruth; summer; davidosborne; MeeknMing; Ragtime Cowgirl; JulieRNR21; ...
I don't trust them either but if we can get into the practice of attacking the party and the awful tickets they run, it gives us room to turn dems into republicans. There are lots of dems that are supporting Governor Bush. They have more courage than the dem sheeple. And the teachers for Jeb have tons of courage as they've been under tremendous peer pressure since the race began.

ATTACK THE DNC, ATTACK THE TICKET AND THE VOTER FRAUD orchestrated by the hard core sore losers but we must reach out to the conservative dems who are fed up and ashamed of being a democrat. They have every reason to be ashamed, not of themselves but of the DEM PARTY. Invite them to join us.

63 posted on 11/04/2002 7:22:01 AM PST by floriduh voter
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To: Fracas; Landru; ForGod'sSake
LOL...I've got Julia's RepugnantReptile Right here, baby...MUD
64 posted on 11/04/2002 7:24:19 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Fracas
LOL!!!!!!!!! Gotta love it!
65 posted on 11/04/2002 7:26:27 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: timydnuc
Thanks for doing that. I've seen the t.v. equivalent of that ad several times and it's just incredibly dishonest. Luther is one desperate dude - I'd love to vote for Kline but unfortunately I'm held hostage in the 4th District and there's little chance of uprooting Betty "Rubble" McCollum from her roost. Is Luther going to get away with all this crap he's pulling?
66 posted on 11/04/2002 7:38:52 AM PST by Mark de New Brighton
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping.

Speaking of "love your enemies" my husband is a Dem. Yesterday, after church we got into an argument, he said that Republicans are "social darwinists" and I said that Democrats were theives, trying to leave all of their "charitable" acts up to the government, paid for with other people's money...and that their actions were ultimatly destructive to the very people they tried to help, pointing out the rise in the number of old folks on "social security"no longer welcomed in their children's homes, farmed out to nursing homes which are hopelessly understaffed due to the inordinate cost of insurance, a direct result of the trial lawyers that own the DNC.

When the story broke on the "compassionate" Dem postal employee trying to cut 500 jobs in Arkansas, he refused to discuss it. He got all emotional, said he hated politics and would agree to no longer vote if I would simply never bring up the subject to him again.

We live in FL. I am considering his offer. I'm looking for input, here.

67 posted on 11/04/2002 7:42:03 AM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: Fracas
Once the party of JFK and FDR, the Democrats are now the party of dirty tricks.

The Party of Bill Clinton hard at work for THEMSELVES!!!

Good article to send off to all my family and friends .. thanks for the Ping Fracas

68 posted on 11/04/2002 7:43:55 AM PST by Mo1
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To: McGavin999
We had Dem houseguests this weekend...hubby's friends of course, LOL...I could not believe it when his wife opened her mouth and said she did not trust Bush, that Clinton was a much better President and when I contradicted her, she started the whole "it was all about his personal life" garbage...hubby unfortunately shut me down with one of his "don't go there" looks or it would have turned into a very ugly scene. Fortunately this dimwit does not vote. However, her mother-in-law is a rabid Dem and works for the DNC. Her MIL and I can't stay in the same room for more than 1 hour without getting in each other's faces.

On the other hand, I was able to get one of his other friends hooked on O'Reilly/Fox News a few weeks ago. Another dimwit that fortunately does not vote, but at least she will discuss things rationally when confronted with the truth. Told her I'd make a Pubbie out of her yet, LOL!

69 posted on 11/04/2002 7:48:38 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
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70 posted on 11/04/2002 7:51:39 AM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: Pokey78
Darn right they're the party of dirty tricks.....even my 87 year old grandmother says we don't need no more dirty crook Democrats in office:)
71 posted on 11/04/2002 7:53:25 AM PST by gore_sux_2000
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To: Pokey78
Darn right they're the party of dirty tricks.....even my 87 year old grandmother says we don't need no more dirty crook Democrats in office:)
72 posted on 11/04/2002 7:53:26 AM PST by gore_sux_2000
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To: Dutchgirl
Hmmm... If he promises not to ever vote again while not holding you to the same inaction, I'd call that a step in the right direction.

As for his "Social Darwinist" comment (implying that Democrats are "charitiable"), I offer you the following bit to bounce off of him (gently!):

A Lesson On Big Government
Dinesh D'Souza

The power of coercion, which is inherent in the nature of government, fundamentally undermines the claim that the government is doing a moral thing by helping people. Let me show why this is so.

I am walking down the street, eating a sandwich, when I am approached by a hungry man. He wants to share my sandwich. Now if I give him the sandwich, I have done a good deed, and I feel good about it. The hungry man feels grateful to me, and even if he cannot repay me for my kindness, possibly he will try to help someone else when he has the chance. So this is a transaction that benefits both the giver and the receiver.

But see what happens if the government gets involved. The government takes my sandwich from me by force. Consequently, I am a reluctant giver. The government then bestows my sandwich on the hungry man. Instead of being thankful to me, however, the man feels entitled to this benefit. In other words, the involvement of the state has utterly stripped the transaction of its moral value, even though the material result is exactly the same.

Now let's keep the same scenario but change the outcome. I am approached by the hungry man, as before, but this time, instead of agreeing to share my sandwich, I refuse to do so. Along comes a third man, who pulls out a gun, points it at my head, and forces me to hand over my sandwich to him, upon which he gives it to the hungry guy. What is the moral quality of the gunman's action? I think most people would consider him an unscrupulous thug who should be apprehended and punished. Yet when the government does precisely the same thing - forcibly seizing from some in order to give to others - the liberal insists the government is acting in a just and moral manner. This is clearly not true.

Good luck...


73 posted on 11/04/2002 7:57:47 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: CalConservative
I think that the picture of Hillary pledging allegiance the the flag at the Wellstone memorial says it all. (Remember that Daschle did the same thing at an earlier event)
74 posted on 11/04/2002 8:03:12 AM PST by Eva
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To: RichInOC
Very good...thanks for the P.J. quote!
75 posted on 11/04/2002 8:10:23 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Pokey78
bump
76 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:28 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: RichInOC
Good one:

"My mother's mother, Grandma Loy, came from downstate Illinois....Grandma thought the Democrats were, like drought and wheat rot, an inexplicable evil of nature that America had done nothing to warrant....And she wouldn't even speak the word 'Democrats' if there were children in the room. She'd say 'bastards' instead."

77 posted on 11/04/2002 8:22:12 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
Yes, vote Republican (not RINO, though). Talk to friends and collegues about the lies of the RATs, but remember this: the RATs are serious about terminating freedom and Constitional government. They are increasingly becoming a genuine communist party peopled with the most alarming radicals, fifth-columists and outright traitors. And they control the "commanding heights" of the media, popular culture and academia. If and when they really start to lose power, hold on to your hats. They will start doing things that were though unimmaginable except in a place like Cuba. Then things will move to a new level and the confrontation will take on different dimensions. This is the battle that is beginning to shape up today.
78 posted on 11/04/2002 8:39:14 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: F16Fighter
...to re-write it and thus subvert it for their own socialist agendae...

Uh,...F16Fighter...They are not 'Socialists' or 'Liberals' or 'Progressives' or 'Leftists' or any other such newspeak bullsh*t.

These are hardcore, unrepentant 'neo-Stalinists' and nothing but.

I get real tired of posting this, but I could really use some help down here in the language war....

79 posted on 11/04/2002 8:41:51 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: Pokey78
-At a September debate in Maryland between the candidates for lieutenant governor, supporters of Democratic gubernatorial candidate Kathleen Kennedy Townsend passed out Oreo cookies to mock black Republican hopeful Michael Steele

In KKT's mind, she owns black votes. They owe her for being a kind political slave owner. How dare they think their vote is their vote.

80 posted on 11/04/2002 8:43:37 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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