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UK visitor numbers plummet (TOURISM IN TROUBLE ALERT)
BBC News ^ | October 31, 2002 | BBC News

Posted on 10/31/2002 1:36:00 AM PST by MadIvan

The number of foreign tourists visiting the UK saw its biggest fall in 20 years in 2001, official figures show.

The impact of September 11 and the foot-and-mouth outbreak contributed to the sharp decline, which saw a £1.5bn drop in the amount spent by visitors to the UK.

Visitor numbers fell 9% to 22.8m.

To make matters worse for the struggling UK tourist trade, the same period saw more Britons than ever choosing to holiday abroad.

This saw the tourism deficit - the difference between the amount spent by visitors to the UK compared to that spent by Britons abroad - rise to a record £14bn.

The figures, produced by the Office for National Statistics, show a particularly steep decline in the number of tourists from the US - traditionally the highest-spending visitors to the UK.

An ONS spokesman said the foot-and-mouth outbreak which affected much of rural Britain during the first half of last year had contributed to both the decline in overseas visitors and the increase in Britons holidaying abroad.

The spokesman said the figures up to August for 2002 had shown some improvement on 2001, but were still below 2000's level.

"We would hope that the travel balance of payments deficit will be lower this year, but it is too early to say."

Ken Kelling, spokesman for the English Tourism Council, which promotes domestic tourism in England, told BBC News Online the figures were disappointing, but that efforts were already underway to attract British and foreign tourists to holiday in the UK.

He said: "Foot-and-mouth and September 11 had a serious impact on tourism here, foot-and-mouth on our image overseas and September 11 on people's willingness to travel.

"Visitors from nearby European countries, Spain, Germany etc, have come back quite quickly, but it has not been so quick with the high-spending US and Japanese markets."

He said that as well as encouraging foreign tourists to return, it was important to encourage Britons to holiday in their own country.

"We had a stark reminder last year that four out of every five pounds spent on tourism in this country is spent by people who live here."

The figures are released as the British Tourist Authority unveils a long-term plan to increase the UK's income from tourism.

The BTA's "Leading the World to Britain" campaign aims to build on emerging markets in eastern Europe and the Far East, as well as putting more emphasis on the distinctiveness of Britain's three nations, and increasing UK tourism's internet presence.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; tourism; uk; usa
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To: MadIvan
"You actually want to give money to the French? "

In exchange for some cheese, some wine, yes. O.K. I'm a weak man, I'm not proud of it, alright?

21 posted on 10/31/2002 4:45:19 AM PST by billorites
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To: Martyn Tarne; Jmouse007
Right now it costs less to go from JFK to Heathrow than from Upstate NY to Pittsburgh. Go for it, JMouse.
22 posted on 10/31/2002 4:45:21 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Jmouse007
>>if you hear of any cheap air fares let me know

Clark Howard (consumer/travel radio talk show host) was talking about cheap fares to Europe the other day. For winter travel, they're shaping up to be very economical, soon. You might check his web site, I think he does cheap ticket alerts.

http://www.clarkhoward.com

http://clarkhoward.com/travel/tips/todays_tip.html

It looks like there are some $280 fares to London.
23 posted on 10/31/2002 5:00:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: MadIvan

There's tons to see in the UK, but for a few more bucks an American can continue on to Southern France

You actually want to give money to the French?

Do that and they may just surrender.

;-)

24 posted on 10/31/2002 5:20:42 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: MadIvan
I've been to Britain twice and can't wait to get back. This is one of the reasons I wish this war on terror in all it's forms will be proscuted fully. It is imperative that normal folks can feel secure in traveling. In my two trips to England during the 90's, I never really worried about crime, even in London. Today I can't help but think about some scraggly terrorist getting on my plane.There was so much to do and see in the UK, and the British are an inherently good people.

Despite what we here in the states see in the press, the overwheliming majority of Brits don't spend their days lofting red banners and chanting anti-American slogans. They go to work, worry about their kids, and try to be decent folk.

25 posted on 10/31/2002 5:21:06 AM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: MadIvan
Government everywhere parasitizes the economy of the productive segment of the population. If I spend money in Britain, then a certain fraction of it ends up in the greedy hands of the British government either as excise taxes or income taxes on the businesses that I patronize. Granted this isn't much, but it is a matter of allocation. The question becomes would I rather a fraction of my tourist $$$ end up in the hands of the Wyoming and Montana governments or the British government (presupposing that I would equally enjoy the tourist attractions in either place)? The answer for me is NOT BRITAIN.

And, one other thing. I personally don't feel safe in jurisdictions that disarm individuals. Another reason to avoid socialist "workers' paradises" like Britain, Taxachussetts, Maryland, etc.

26 posted on 10/31/2002 5:24:52 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: from occupied ga
No matter what you spend or where you spend it, at the present time, it will end up in the hands of government, and to pay the salaries of those whose work you don't like. A greater proportion of that money however will be going to the decent businessmen and women of Britain, who are being penalised by your quest for ideological purity, which you will never, ever be able to wholly accomplish.

Quite frankly, it doesn't bother me if you don't visit however. Given your perspective, it looks like you simply cannot enjoy a place for what it is, rather than dwelling on whatever political content that offends you.

Ivan

27 posted on 10/31/2002 6:00:24 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Despite what we here in the states see in the press, the overwheliming majority of Brits don't spend their days lofting red banners and chanting anti-American slogans. They go to work, worry about their kids, and try to be decent folk.

Now I'm worried about what your press is saying about us!

Regards, Ivan

28 posted on 10/31/2002 6:01:30 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I was on the computer checking flight info the morning of 9/11, planning a surprise visit for my Welsh cousin's wedding. Needless to say, it didn't happen. Great Britain is the only part of Europe I am interested in traveling to now, but I'm still apprehensive about flying overseas. I sure do want to go though..... it's driving me nuts, this dilemma. I will say that the security at Manchester airport was the best I have experienced, last time we visited (9 years back)...wish I could feel the same about our own, here in the states.
29 posted on 10/31/2002 6:13:53 AM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: MadIvan
Given your perspective, it looks like you simply cannot enjoy a place for what it is, rather than dwelling on whatever political content that offends you.

The poliltical climate of a place is part of the place. It is an undivisable part of the place. All of the stuff that goes to make up a place goes together. You cannot separate one aspect and ignore the other. And you're right. I cannot enjoy something without its context. As an example, I can't stand to watch Hunt for Red October because it stars the odious statist and Clinton worshiper, Alex Baldwin, even though it is a pretty decent movie.

No matter what you spend or where you spend it, at the present time, it will end up in the hands of government, and to pay the salaries of those whose work you don't like.

This is true; however, the British government is a particularly egregious example of a totalitarian state with high tax rates and numerous arbitrary and capricious restrictions on its subjects. Example - didn't a shopkeeper get sent to jail recently for weighing his goods in pounds an ounces rather than grams and kilograms? Example - didn't an elderly farmer get sent to jail for defending himself with a shotgun from a couple of professional thugs when the thug (surviving) was given a slap on the wrist? Example - didn't the British government help the surviving thug sue the selfsame elderly farmer? I would not enjoy a vacation in a country where this sort of idiocy is not only the norm, but is constantly increasing.

Britain may have marvelous scenery and culturally edifying museums, but it also has one of the most hypocritical, arrogant and oppressive governments in the Western hemisphere, and I cannot turn off the part of my mind that is aware of this fact. Further I cannot help but think that most of the boobs I see walking around places like this want it this way

30 posted on 10/31/2002 6:22:15 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Will_Zurmacht
I never really worried about crime, even in London

the ONLY places I worried about crime in Britain were in London, when there was a bomb scare in our subway station, and in Liverpool when a couple scousers didn't like the way they thought my friend was lookin at them ;)

31 posted on 10/31/2002 6:22:27 AM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: chasio649
If you are interested in Churchill besides the IWM the Cabinet War Rooms is also worth a look. Other places to check out would be the statue in front of Parliament, Blenheim Palace, his burial plot in Bladon nearby. Although pricey always drink Cuvee Winston Churchill by Pol Roger Champagne. :)
32 posted on 10/31/2002 6:23:23 AM PST by xp38
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To: MadIvan
I've been to Blackpool. Have you? (;>)
33 posted on 10/31/2002 6:30:28 AM PST by Stentor
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To: chasio649
Also Dover Castle. The tunnels beneath it are open to the public. You can see the command center where naval operations in the Channel were controlled, and where the evacuation from Dunkirk was planned. Well worth a visit.
34 posted on 10/31/2002 6:32:22 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: xp38
Oh and how could I forget Chartwell his home from 1924 to the end of his life.
35 posted on 10/31/2002 6:33:02 AM PST by xp38
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To: MadIvan
Ivan,

One of my fondest memories for my wife and myself, was our honeymoon trip to London in January of 2000. In particular I like to say that when we first landed in London, Klintoon was President, when we took off to return to the states, he was not President.

My wife would appreciate any links you might have for good places to take high tea.

36 posted on 10/31/2002 6:47:40 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr
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To: from occupied ga
of a totalitarian state with high tax rates

You can say a lot of things about Britain- but it is not a totalitarian state. That's just completely over the top to compare Britain and it's Parliament to China, Cuba, Iraq, Zimbabwe etc. People are free here.

37 posted on 10/31/2002 7:10:13 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
it's Parliament = its Parliament
38 posted on 10/31/2002 7:12:19 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
People are free here (Britain)

Sure they are. They're free in Cuba too in that they don't live in prisons. Open a shop and sell something that you weigh in pounds and ounces. Go buy a handgun for self protection. No, never mind the handgun. Go buy a can of pepper spray for self protection. What, can't do it? I guess you aren't free to do some fundamental things like effectively defend yourself from agression there.

We aren't especially free in the USA. (Try building on your property if the EPA has declared it a "wetland") But you sure are a hell of a lot less free there than we are here.

You remind me of the story of the old black guy that was walking through the cemetary reading the inscriptions on the tombstones. He came to one that said "Not dead but sleeping" His comment was "That boy ain't foolin' nobody but hisself."

39 posted on 10/31/2002 7:38:19 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: MadIvan
I did my part... toured England in June. Didn't spend all that much though.
40 posted on 10/31/2002 7:39:43 AM PST by johnb838
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