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To: Stand Watch Listen
Oh and hitting a nickel or dime at 100 yards is crap, too. The M-16 is not a less than 1 moa rifle. In fact, almost no rifle is a less than 1 moa rifle. I think the M-16 is probably closer to a 2 moa rifle. If a guy shoots a 3 round group there's a pretty good chance the guy can hit the nickel or dime. But he's not going to hit it every time. The rifle just simply isn't that good.
10 posted on 10/28/2002 1:11:59 PM PST by sparkomatic
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To: sparkomatic
I was trained as a unit armorer while with 1Bn 52nd Inf. Learned there that it is acceptable for a M16 to be as much as a 5 MOA after 2000 rds. Considering the weapon actually rattles when shacken, I would say that your assessment of 2 MOA is kind.

My turn to brag:

My Remmington 700 VS (Varmit Synthetic - closest thing to the M24 on the civilan market) came with 1/2 MOA out of the box and I have since tuned it to 1/10 MOA from bench. I have to shoot at 200 yards to be able to make an accurate measure of the MOA.

The down side is that it leaves me no excuse when I miss 'cause the rifle is far more accurate than I'll ever be.

For those that think my claims to be unrealistic, or those that wish to "tune" their rifle, I highly recommend the following product:

http://rifle-accuracy.com/

While I was not able to acheive the .08 MOA in the product advertisements, It did greatly improved the accuracy of my gun. I had it installed in the above mentioned Rem 700 in .308 and it is now a true tack driver.
18 posted on 10/28/2002 1:39:23 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: sparkomatic

You are so correct.. When I did night fire in basic with tracers, the rounds spiraled out of my rifle.. It was about 4 inch diameter. I think that barrel was pretty much worn out. It wasn't until I got to my unit that I received a new weapon.. Still not MOA, but no spirals..


52 posted on 09/25/2005 6:10:41 AM PDT by tje
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