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Chechens: Islam justifies killing prisoners
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 25, 2002

Posted on 10/26/2002 12:42:41 AM PDT by Michael2001

Islamic teaching allows the killing of prisoners if it benefits Muslims, according to articles on a pro-Chechen Islamist website that cites Muslim sources, including the Quran.

Chechen gunmen holding about 600 hostages in a Moscow theater have set a dawn deadline to begin killing the rest of their captives if Russia does not agree to pull its army out of Chechnya.

The anti-Russian website probably is run by Chechens, said the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, which translated the articles.

An article titled "A Guide to the Perplexed about the Permissibility of Killing Prisoners" says Islamic scholars present five approaches drawn from various interpretations of the Quran:

A polytheist prisoner must be killed. No amnesty may be granted to him, nor can he be ransomed.

All infidel polytheists and the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians) are to be killed. They may not be granted amnesty, nor can they be ransomed.

Amnesty and ransom are the only two ways to deal with (surviving) prisoners.

Amnesty and ransom are possible only after the killing of a large number of prisoners.

The Imam, or someone acting on his behalf, can choose between killing, amnesty, ransom or enslaving the prisoner. The author indicates the last option as his preference, explaining that Islam's prophet, Muhammad, had dealt with prisoners in different ways to maximize the benefits to Muslims. He gives examples of methods with which Muhammad had chosen to kill, grant amnesty and ransom prisoners.

The article was a reaction, the author said, to criticism by Muslims that had "torn his heart," concerning the execution of nine Russian prisoners after the government had refused to surrender "one of Russia's biggest criminals and crooks."

According to the author, the Chechens have executed prisoners not because of their heart's desire, but because they have seen a benefit for the Muslims in such an act.

Some critics have argued, the author notes, that no one should be punished for the sins of others. He insists, however, that Allah permits the killing of a prisoner because he is a prisoner and all the more so if one's killing for the sins of others serves an important Islamic interest, as well as a deterrent to the enemy.

An article titled "Are Hostages Prisoners?" explains the concept of hostages in its modern application to local kidnapped individuals and foreigners who are held as a means of pressure to achieve specific goals.

According to the author, he who was kidnapped in accordance with Islamic law should be considered a hostage, and hence a prisoner, who should be treated in the manner that would bring benefits to Muslims.

Another article, "Prisoners in Islam," indicates there are five methods that Islam proposes for dealing with prisoners: release without ransom, ransom, killing, enslavement or subjugation to the authority of the Islamic state.

The method changes according to circumstances, but it has to be one that brings the greatest benefits to Muslims, the article says. For example, if among the prisoners there is someone who is strong and is likely to tantalize the Muslims and his staying alive might cause harm, his killing will be the preferred method.

If there is someone who is weak but wealthy, ransoming him is the best method, according to the article. If there is someone who holds a favorable view of Muslims and could help them and their prisoners, amnesty is the best method. If there are those who could render a service, such as women and children, enslavement is considered best.


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Religion of peace...
1 posted on 10/26/2002 12:42:41 AM PDT by Michael2001
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These people are worse than mad dogs. Where do they dream up this attitude? The more I hear about this, the more I'd like to see our guys... (censored).
2 posted on 10/26/2002 12:56:15 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Michael2001
Animals. Mad dogs that need to be put down.
3 posted on 10/26/2002 12:57:25 AM PDT by Pern
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To: Michael2001
. . . hence a prisoner, who should be treated in the manner that would bring benefits to Muslims . . .

By nuking their cities everytime they take an American hostage, maybe they'd come to understand it does not benefit moooooslims to take hostages. DUH!

4 posted on 10/26/2002 2:49:11 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Michael2001
Allen praise geehog, may pieces be of you.
5 posted on 10/26/2002 2:54:18 AM PDT by Democrap
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To: Michael2001
Yeah, Piece of ****
6 posted on 10/26/2002 3:43:19 AM PDT by MissHardihood
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To: Michael2001
He gives examples of methods with which Muhammad had chosen to kill, grant amnesty and ransom prisoners.

Didn't Mohammed found the Religion o' Peace™?

He insists, however, that Allah permits the killing of a prisoner because he is a prisoner and all the more so if one's killing for the sins of others serves an important Islamic interest, as well as a deterrent to the enemy.

So the ends justify the means for Mohammedans. Apparently the most basic principles of moral philosophy don't apply to them.

Of course an eternal First Principle can only be upheld by an eternal source, God, thus contradicting their religious teachings.

7 posted on 10/26/2002 4:34:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
Self-defense justifies killing Islamists.
8 posted on 10/26/2002 4:40:25 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Michael2001
Each of us should print copies of this and spread them around to friends and family. If this article is true, we must brace for the coming battles with the worst of man's evil and utterly annihilate this cult of death and those who would aid and comfort them.

We have the last Crusade ahead of us.
9 posted on 10/26/2002 4:50:36 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Michael2001
Islamic teaching allows the killing of prisoners if it benefits Muslims...

I guess, then, they won't have a problem with us or the Russians turning their countries into glass parking lots. Works for me.

5.56mm

10 posted on 10/26/2002 4:53:20 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: LibWhacker
If a major carnage occurs here, we should nuke all of their holy places and every city larger tha 10,000 in Saudi Arabia. Many millions of these a**holes need to die until the more peaceful nuslims gain control. We killed our Hitlers. It is time for them to do the same.
11 posted on 10/26/2002 5:45:25 AM PDT by Broward Lion
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If a major carnage occurs here, we should nuke all of their holy places and every city larger tha 10,000 in Saudi Arabia.

Actually, I think only these three would be necessary:

Mecca

Medina

Qadian

If it were demonstrated that Allah couldn't protect his holiest cities, Islam would be over.

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
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12 posted on 10/26/2002 6:11:48 AM PDT by JCG
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To: Cobra64
These people are worse than mad dogs.

They're not even smart, they're asking for war on all fronts, they're attacking Jews and Christians in the US, Russia, all over Europe, they're beheading Christians in Indonesia, they've killed millions of Christians and animists in Africa, they're taking on the Hindus in India. It's like they're asking for the whole world to move in and wipe them out.

13 posted on 10/26/2002 6:30:04 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Michael2001
The administration should change its policy and back Russia in this. It would help with support for Iraq, and an independent Chechnya is no benefit to us. The world already has too many Islamic nutball states, its doesn't need anymore.
14 posted on 10/26/2002 7:23:52 AM PDT by republicman
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To: JCG
I'd never heard of Qadian before. Thanks for making me do a search. Add a third city to the list!

Of course, if we ever grow the cojones to threaten them in a way that WILL get their attention (and I doubt we will), we'd at least give them a few hours warning to get out of the area. And, of course, they'll flock there to die as 'martyrs', and the Lefties will still screech that they were 'slaughtered innocents' when they deliberately ran for their own deaths. Ahh, liberals... is there any self-defense or American action they don't despise?

Mirza Ghulam Qadianis and The Holy Shrines of Islam

15 posted on 10/26/2002 7:24:43 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Michael2001
he who was kidnapped in accordance with Islamic law

Well, there you have it.

16 posted on 10/26/2002 7:29:21 AM PDT by tet68
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To: Michael2001
And they are worried about a backlash? Snipers, terrorists, slaughterers in the name of religion? The individuals who worry about a backlash need to look for a new guru. Backlash is justified.
17 posted on 10/26/2002 7:29:21 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Michael2001
ROPMA
18 posted on 10/26/2002 7:31:18 AM PDT by ChadGore
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To: Michael2001
I can see how this belief system renders the killing of infidels a simple act of faith. The deliberate act of slitting Daniel Pearl's throat must have come easy.
19 posted on 10/26/2002 7:59:31 AM PDT by mikeIII
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To: Michael2001

Hey. . . settle down. . . don't be so rough with these Chechen murderers. . . they're simply following the hell-hole edicts of

Islam, the Religion of Beheading !!!

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [ CUT OFF THEIR HEADS ] and smite all their finger tips of them [ CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS ]." - Koran 8: 12

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [ CUT OFF THEIR HEADS ] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4


20 posted on 10/26/2002 8:15:14 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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