Cops Hung Up Phone On Beltway Shooter(!)

Houston Chronicle ^ | 10/23/2002 | Sari Horowitz and Carri Morello

[per loin]

Yes. How dare anyone criticize a government bureaucrat, especially one shoehorned into his position by Janet Reno and the Clintons. Everyone should just shut up and do what they're told. And no mumbling in the back of the room either! Sheeesh!!!

[Deb]

I was really hoping there wouldn't be anyone immature enough to go for the easy Hoover/homo joke.

You do know that "cross-dressing" crap was a planted lie used to slander and demean Hoover, don't you? It was never true...or funny.

[BuddhaBoy]

As a black man who did NOT benefit from Affirmative Action, who sees the results of it every day, it is a sickening thing. You might check out the stories of Prof's at Harvard refusing to give a grade lower than a C.

Look at that idiot Cornell West. His Harvard education has not prevented him from being an idiot either.

The challenge at many colleges is to get in. Once in, if you dont drop out, you can hardly fail. I "slithered" in here to give my opinion. You dont have to like it. Or are you suggesting that only opinions that agree with yours should be allowed?

[jiggyboy]

"...for example, Representative Barbara Lee of Oakland, CA, has an extensive security detail since she had death threats after her pro-terrorist stand. No way could a sniper take her out, nope..."

[BuddhaBoy]

Digging What?

You know Howlin, I was a lurker here when you suffered the tragedy in your family a while back, and I grieved right along with you.

When did you become so controlling?

I have my opinion, and you have yours, and thats all there is to it. Please dont tell me what to do, I havent broken any rules here.

[DoughtyOne]

To: DoughtyOne

Yes. How dare anyone criticize a government bureaucrat, especially one shoehorned into his position by Janet Reno and the Clintons. Everyone should just shut up and do what they're told. And no mumbling in the back of the room either! Sheeesh!!!

281 posted on 10/23/02 12:00 PM Pacific by per loin
 

You are operating under the impression that Janet Reno appoints police chiefs?  What did she do, hold a gun to the head of local officials?  Geez, are you out in left field or what?  Just because the media says something, it doesn't mean you have to accept it on face value.  The local city officials had to choose this man over the other applicants.  That's how it really works, despite what the media says.

I'll ask you how you would handle this investigation differently?  Wouldn't you have invited in the federal agencies and surrounding agencies and set up basicly the same team this man has?  When the crimes occurred, wouldn't you have blocked off local traffic and tried to search the vehicles?  Wouldn't you have kept an open dialoge with the perp?

Mumbling is about all some of you can do.  I guess that's your idea of contributing.  It's my idea of dragging the whole team down.

[jiggyboy]

My cynical translation is that "the number was non-functional" means "we didn't have enough time to trace the call, that's why we didn't pick it up".

[Howlin]

You know what, only somebody that is losing an argument would use that incident in a post about cops.

I'm done with you.

[BuddhaBoy]

Mumbling is about all some of you can do

I would remind you that mumbling is about all ANY of us are doing including you.

Calling people names and using invectives when you disagree is a trait of the liberals. You might consider that.

[BuddhaBoy]

I didnt know we were arguing at all, Howlin.

I respect your right to your opinion, I just wish you felt the same.

[dmz]

after your absurd cheap shot, I figured you had one coming back at you (and it wasn't hard to figure out you'd be annoyed by my post)

mission accomplished

[DoughtyOne]

You don't know if the things you are saying are true or not. You do not know if this man used affirmative action to get into college. You are basing your whole attitude on the issue of whether this guy uses good diction or not.

You state he isn't qualified. I say he has a PhD and a Masters. Your comeback is that it doesn't matter.

I must say, your debate skills are second to none. Who could win a discussion with you based on facts? All you have to do is spout information that may or may not be true, and completely dismiss what are known facts.

And you think you're winning?

[Howlin]

Then why did you bring my son into this? Nothing else to add? That has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this. And I am sick and tired of you people who don't like me acting like it's fine to bring that into any discussion.

[jiggyboy]

Not at all. Some Chiefs would be close to 100%, some would be close to 0%. In one of the sheriff's campaigns (can't remember if it's local or if I read about it on FR), one of the candidates claims a 100% arrest and conviction rate for the 8 or so murders in his juristiction.

[DoughtyOne]

To: DoughtyOne

Mumbling is about all some of you can do

I would remind you that mumbling is about all ANY of us are doing including you.

Some of us have reminded you and others of obvious facts.  That's not mumbling my friend.  Mumbling is when people make noise without facts.

Calling people names and using invectives when you disagree is a trait of the liberals. You might consider that.

289 posted on 10/23/02 12:15 PM Pacific by BuddhaBoy
 

Out of the volume of comments I've made on this subject, this is what you came away with...

Tell you what, which group of people throw out baseless charges on qualifications?  Would that be a conservative or a liberal?  You don't know that Police Chief Moose was an affirmative action candidate do you.

Now, wouldn't you be able to agree that calling someone the beneficiary of affirmative action, saying they are unqualified when you have no proof, is the same thing as calling someone names and using invective in the absense of known facts.  You might consider that.

[BuddhaBoy]

Howlin, I only mentioned that time because I wanted to remind you that we are all on the same team here. I meant no harm by it, and if I offended you, I apologize.

I just feel that sometimes we like to stiffle others opinions just because we disagree. If you look back on this thread, you wont find me calling anyone names, or suggesting that they dont have a right to say what they said.

Again, if it was wrong to mention your son, then I apologize.

[BuddhaBoy]

Correction, I called Chief Moose, Moose(head). I stand corrected.

[BuddhaBoy]

I have based my comments on those of a few of my cop friends. One of them, is a Vice and Murder detective.

They feel to a man, that Moose is an embarassment.

I have echoed those thoughts. Even so, its still mumbling in my opinion.

[BuddhaBoy]

I would also add, what makes you think I dont like you?

I dont even know you, accept that you are a Conservative. I was only defending my right to disagree. I hope you accept my apology, as I really meant no harm.

[dmz]

Damn right, I take it personal.

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shouldn't that be "personally". Good thing you don't have to stand up in front of all those cameras, eh?