Posted on 10/19/2002 3:53:18 PM PDT by Exton1
"One less than I intend to {glare}..."
I'm glad you told it. That punch between the eyes was for every guy that died, for every Mom who wept, for every wife and love, every sister, brother, cousin, and Friends who lost someone over there while these cowards sat in comfort here. That they had the audacity to SPIT on a person in uniform is sickening (It doesn't matter that you all were in the cab,.. his intentions were the same).
The Captain punched that guy for us too. For all the wounded my husband carried out, for all the dead he carried out,.. for my POW's I worked on, for those we knew who we lost. For our fallen brothers and sisters in arms. I wish I could thank him in person!!
Your story just made my day :o)
Thanks!! And THANKYOU FOR SERVING!! God Bless, Vets
"Like I said, I must have been on another planet..."
I'd love to help you GET back to the planet you came from. What a slimeball. You are the lowest of low.. a total coward. Oh, and pray tell, how does one dodge the draft and remain in Portland Oregon?
I leave you with a quote about people like you:
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~~ John Stuart Mill ~~
Not at age 18, I didn't. And not when my friends who'd gotten drafted were telling me not to make the same mistake they did.
And you're right... you can be glad I never got into the military at that age - but not for the reasons you think...
Of what? Taking the advice of people who'd already gone in?
I suppose you'd tell me that if somebody you know bashes their head against a wall and then tells you they wished they hadn't done it, you should insist on doing it anyway...
I must say, the intellectual calibre of your reply is truly inspiring...
I leave you with a quote about people like you:
Unfortunately, you didn't. You left me with a quote about people who eschew war and things military. I never said I did that - I said I took the advice of people who'd already made what they told me was a mistake.
But you didn't even bother to read my post - you just came flaming unglued, just like the knee-jerk liberals of whom you so disapprove...
The answers to your question are self evident to anyone with principles and forever beyond the understanding of those without them. Everyone was afraid and fear is nothing to be ashamed of ...... but rationalizing your failure to be honorable is feeble.
You and Bubba are cut from the same cloth ....
I sincerely hope you are not raising children.
You're dodging my question... and why are you so sure I'm rationalizing, and not just telling you exactly what happened? (Of course, if I were merely telling the truth, you'd have to ask some uncomfortable questions about your own convictions of moral superiority... which would explain both your accusation of rationalizing and your reluctance to answer my question...)
Because now, about 30 years later, you are blaming your failure to do the honorable thing on others (.... those who answered the call.)
..... if I were merely telling the truth,.....
I'm sure you are telling the truth .... that you relied on the advice of friends who did fight in the war ....... and in doing so have foever dishonored yorself. IMO, it is you who are skirting the issue ..... which is about your honor and principles. It most assuredly is not about those who did answer the bell.<p.have you ever wondered why it is that after all this time you feel the need to justify your shameful failure ????
That's an interesting claim, that I "dishonored myself" by listening to the advice of those who fought. (Maybe you should read your own reply a couple of times).
And to whom are you expecting that I should have listened instead? Are you assuming that there was anyone else *more* worthy of my respect - in particular, someone who *didn't* go - who was giving me advice?
have you ever wondered why it is that after all this time you feel the need to justify your shameful failure ????
What gives you the idea I feel any such need? I'm just responding to *your* accusations in this thread - would you rather I didn't?
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