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To: Savage Beast
However, all this notwithstanding, Western Civilization is the greatest accumulation of wisdom ever to grace the earth.

Yes, human wisdom which is opposed to God. God said, "I will frustrate the wisdom of the wise." Man's wisdom is worldly and corrupt.

The concepts of human rights, liberty, equality, the pursuit of happiness, equal protection under the law, constitutional government, representative government, and so much more are gifts from God.

True, and we have abused them and ignored them as evidenced by 40 million dead babies (where is their right to life - so much for that right!) Our leaders today do not recognize God as the giver of these rights (with a few exceptions). Their minds are corrupted and they are blind to the truth. America has trampled on these God-given rights and gifts. Our republic is being transformed into an oligarchy or worse.

By contrast, the benighted and misguided beliefs of fanatical Islamists cannot compare to Western Civilization.

I agree. So why is Bush calling it a religion of peace? hmm? Our govt is so politically correct, it can't see the nose in front of its face, let alone recognize the fact that islam is a satanic warlike religion and that the terrorists are the TRUE followers of Islam!

Yes. God is with us.

Where is the evidence for this? Could 911 be a warning from God to turn from our wicked ways or suffer the consequences? I don't see anything changing, do you? If anything, the attacks on goodness and decency continue unabated, and most people are brain-dead from their own pleasure seeking lifestyle. America could very well be under judgment right now. In many ways, our culture is WORSE than islam (hard to admit isn't it?) - they don't kill their unborn babies and they don't propagate filth, and they don't legitimize homosexuality (remember Sodom?), and teach their children that moral relativism is the best ethical system. The wages of sin is death. If God does not destroy America, it can only be because he is withholding final judgment because America's iniquity is not at its fullest yet. But just wait, evil is progressive, and America is on a downward moral spiral. God waited 400 years to judge the Canaanites, so if He withholds judgment now, do NOT take that as a sign that God has turned a blind eye to the evil in America. America today is NOTHING like the America of 1800. There is no resemblance.

If the United States remains resolute and if the American people return to the values that made the U.S. the greatest nation the world has ever known, no foreign enemy can destroy us.

That's an awful big "if". I do not expect America to return to good values. Why should they? Sin is pleasurable! Only a massive sweeping Christian revival will save America.

45 posted on 10/17/2002 1:24:06 PM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
"Only a massive sweeping Christian revival will save America."

You may be right about that. The Islamic threat may catalyse such a revival.

Western Civilization is the greatest accumulation of wisdom ever to grace the earth. It is not opposed to God.

You raise many good questions.

The cosmos is God's holy scripture. His revelations continue. He didn't write all His teachings in one book or in one place and then disappear. He continues to reveal His truth.

Even with all its flaws, Western Civilization towers over Islam. It is open to God's continuing revelation of His truth.

I think a Christian renaissance in the West is a distinct possiblity.

69 posted on 10/18/2002 6:41:58 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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