2 'Hispanics' sought in D.C.-area hunt (REPOST: OCTOBER 4, 2002 report)

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 4, 2002 | Paul Sperry

[MissHardihood]

ANGRY White Men

[valkyrieanne]

Technically, Arabs are "white men." The Philippine Islands are about 5% Islamic, but they have some really nasty jihadist groups. My personal view is that it's some Islamic-terrorist related thing, and the "Hispanic" stuff is essentially to deflect American criticism or scrutiny of Muslims.

[Diogenesis]

Correct.

click here re: Maxwell's Laws of Terrorism

[MissHardihood]

I also just heard a Lt. Gen. Thomas Macinearny(sp, sorry) mention that this WAS terrorism, domestic or idealogical...

Of course it is, for sure.

[LibFreeUSA]

Let's get away from the 'ehtnicity' of the criminals, and focus on their 'complexion', i.e. "DARK SKINNED". We are needlessly getting side-tracked into the 'ethnic origin' of the perp(s) - WHICH IS WHAT THE PERPS WANT!!!

Calling them "Hispanic" or "ME", unless we conclusively know for certain, does a disservice to the tracking process!

"Hispanic" can mean someone's ethnicity from MEXICO to ARGENTINA, "ME" could mean someone from MORROCO to PAKISTAN!

We're forgetting "DARK SKINNED", which until we know for sure, could mean anyone from HALF THE PLANET (Phillipines to MORROCO, to BRAZIL).

So,let's stay with the 'factual' sighting evidence.

[Steely Tom]

then they qualify this by saying something like noone is really sure if they have anything to do with the shootings. It's kind of like they are apologizing for saying it.

Yeah. Kind of like Seinfeld: "Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

I love it when the guardians of political correctness are forced to balance and trade off between the different priorities of PC. In this case, for instance: it is apparantly not as bad to "racially profile" a criminal as "hispanic" than as "middle eastern," at least if the suspected crime is terrorism.

(steely)

[MissHardihood]

My husband must be familiar with those Laws of Terrorism or he has just seen too many "Action Movies."

Maybe the dragnet should encompass house-to-house searches in the area.

[MissHardihood]

...it is apparantly not as bad to "racially profile" a criminal as "hispanic" than as "middle eastern..."

The "middle eastern" lobbying groups are more radical than the "Hispanic" lobbying groups. If the media blames an "Hispanic" they are less likely to take political heat.

[MissAmericanPie]

It could be illegal Hispanics but the odds don't favor it. Suppose it is a well organized terrorist attack? All of the killings have happened within a very sort drive to a mosque, some within walking distance. Why the attention to mosques? Because the Cleric lives near the mosque and so do some of the members, and they have garages to hide a van in. Suppose the close proximity to freeways is a misdirection, and they are not using the freeways at all, but driving a short distance to a safe house? This means a broad conspiracy involving many people in many areas who have pre-selected a location free of security cameras from which their sniper team can take their shot. The sniper team can be brazen even if the police are in the area because they know in the confusion they only have a short hop to their safe house where they can hold up until the dust has settled and they can drive home in their every day transportation. There have been many descriptions of the white truck, from box truck to Astro Van, with or without a ladder hookup in colors ranging from white to beige to cream. More misdirection. If a different make and model were reported at every killing then it would become obvious that there are many snipers or a well financed group so white vans are used, but they may not be the same white van. A well financed group can use a van once or twice then take it apart and dispose of it. Naturally the government would quitely get the military involved using drones, they already suspect that the freeways are a diversion and the sniper/snipers are not having to drive very far to hide out. I'm sure the government is hoping it is not what it looks to be because Americans are not prepared to accept the new "normal" of living with a bulls eye on their chests or between their eyes. If this is multiple snipers using safe houses in which many Mosques and it's members are involved it puts a whole new complextion on the future of Islam in this nation.

Of course it could be Hispanics or a lone right wing nut, but given the fact that we are engaged in a WOT and may be about to engage Iraq the odds are in favor of Middle Eastern terrorists and their support group.

[aruanan]

In fact, the area is as much of a Third World country now as Miami; the roads are hideously designed, the intersections are a nightmare, the drivers are awful and scary and aggressive, it's like driving in Mexico City.

I'm surprised that you've been to Mexico City, much less driven there. I'm sure the "hideously designed" roads are some kind of nefarious plot by foreigners to make driving a nightmare for you. Boston has the worst driving/highest accident rates in the U.S. and that has nothing to do with foreigners.

[MissHardihood]

Suppose it is a well organized terrorist attack?

Been supposing that since last night.

See Post 19:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/770076/posts?page=19#19

See Post 23:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/770076/posts?page=23#23

[MissAmericanPie]

Sorry, let me clean this up, I have no idea what happened to my paragraphs. I have spent the last week plotting the distance from the site of the killing to a Mosque. A very interesting picture emerged.

It could be illegal Hispanics but the odds don't favor it. Suppose it is a well organized terrorist attack? All of the killings have happened within a very sort drive to a mosque, some within walking distance. Why the attention to mosques? Because the Cleric lives near the mosque and so do some of the members, and they have garages to hide a van in.

Suppose the close proximity to freeways is a misdirection, and they are not using the freeways at all, but driving a short distance to a safe house? This means a broad conspiracy involving many people in many areas who have pre-selected a location free of security cameras from which their sniper team can take their shot.

The sniper team can be brazen even if the police are in the area because they know in the confusion they only have a short hop to their safe house where they can hold up until the dust has settled and they can drive home in their every day transportation.

There have been many descriptions of the white truck, from box truck to Astro Van, with or without a ladder hookup in colors ranging from white to beige to cream. More misdirection. If a different make and model were reported at every killing then it would become obvious that there are many snipers or a well financed group so white vans are used, but they may not be the same white van. A well financed group can use a van once or twice then take it apart and dispose of it.

Naturally the government would quitely get the military involved using drones, they already suspect that the freeways are a diversion and the sniper/snipers are not having to drive very far to hide out.

I'm sure the government is hoping it is not what it looks to be because Americans are not prepared to accept the new "normal" of living with a bulls eye on their chests or between their eyes. If this is multiple snipers using safe houses in which many Mosques and it's members are involved it puts a whole new complextion on the future of Islam in this nation.

Of course it could be Hispanics or a lone right wing nut, but given the fact that we are engaged in a WOT and may be about to engage Iraq the odds are in favor of Middle Eastern terrorists and their support group.

[3AngelaD]

I learned to drive in el Distrito Federal but it is hair-raising and you always breathe a sigh of relief when you arrive in one piece. I lived there for several years. I have family there and return often. I've also driven in Rome, which is no stroll, and in Morocco, where driving is best described as counterintuitive. Driving in the DC metro area is no picnic, but driving in the Seven Corners area is worse. The foreigners DO MAKE IT WORSE. They all apprently go by different rules of the road, and God knows how they got drivers' licenses. For one thing, apparently this is the only country that has picked up on the idea of actually USING turn signals, although I realize it has not been not universally adopted even here. Sorry, I wasn't exactly sure what you were sneering at in my last post, hope this clarifies matters.

[Steely Tom]

The "middle eastern" lobbying groups are more radical than the "Hispanic" lobbying groups. If the media blames an "Hispanic" they are less likely to take political heat.

Excellent point. Newspapers and television news organizations are businesses. They are not run by heroes, by warriors, by crusaders. They are run and operated by people who want to go to work, do their thing, an go home at the end of the day like anyone else. Unfortunately, they chose to be in a business that involves communicating with huge numbers of people, and the information they put out can have unexpected and inconvenient consequences.

For this reason, they tend to do their reporting in a way that minimizes the potential hassle factor to themselves. As you point out in your post, this causes them to tend to pull their punches if they might inflame some population that might, say, bomb their offices or assault one of their reporters. The mainstream white European culture becomes the whipping boy, because soccer moms and cell-phone toting professionals are not going to throw rocks through the windows of the newspaper's headquarters building.

I think you have put your finger on one of the forces driving political correctness and media bias: it's just a way for those in the media to minimize the personal "hassle factor." I mean, come on, it's only a job, right?

Other factors that play into the same outcome:

1. Pseudo-intellectualism

2. Ivory-tower detachment

3. Desire to make business pay to get their good news out

4. Herd mentality

5. Phony "creativity" (common sense says this, but common sense is so boring, so I'll say that)

6. (insert your ideas here).

(steely)

[Captain Culpepper]

Isn't Jose Padilla (a.k.a. John Doe #2) "hispanic" also?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the repost!!!

[jjm2111]

The cheerleaders are going to LOVE you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The cheerleaders are going to LOVE you.

Who are the cheerleaders?

[jjm2111]

The "Bush can do no wrong" types.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The "Bush can do no wrong" types.

Ah yes. The demagog who call everybody else demagags.