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Marxist-Inspired Cuban-Venezuelan-Brazilian Axis Could Create Massive Problems For U.S.
Toogood Reports ^ | October 15, 2002 | Lowell Phillips

Posted on 10/15/2002 4:36:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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Dumb...and Dumber!

1 posted on 10/15/2002 4:36:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate

2 posted on 10/15/2002 4:44:37 PM PDT by ffrancone
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...and dumbest.

3 posted on 10/15/2002 4:55:56 PM PDT by My2Cents
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The Web of Terror

Castro, the Carribean, and Terrorism

4 posted on 10/15/2002 5:01:56 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: *Latin_America_List; Cincinatus' Wife
5 posted on 10/15/2002 5:08:37 PM PDT by Free the USA
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These guys are devoted to the Leninist cause, which by the way have been the biggest terrorists of all time. Yet this goes on right in are own backdoor, and we do nothing about it. China in Panama. South America is growing more and more discontent with the U.S. This is going to be a meat grinder in the next 10 years or so if we keep are back turned to this growing threat.
6 posted on 10/15/2002 5:11:41 PM PDT by DarkWaters
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Terrorism's True Roots
7 posted on 10/15/2002 5:14:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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It will require the ability to recognize that democracy can be corrupted by self-destructive political whims.

He's right. We have to keep our eye on the ball here. Democracy is not freedom, freedom is freedom. Democracy that leads to freedom is to be supported, Democracy that leads to tyranny is to be opposed without any qualms. Because it is not the democracy we oppose, it is the tyranny.

And any government or nation that is hostile to us must be opposed, whether it is democratic or not.

And lastly, populism always leads to oligarchy. That is the lesson of Venezuela, and that is the lesson of most latin countries, for that matter.

I am not recommending we pick a fight with Brazil or anyone else. But we must be clear eyed about who we are dealing with, and must not flinch from doing whatever the situation requires in order to break up any hostile coalition that develops, especially if we begin to see Islamist or Chinese connections gathering to push us back.

8 posted on 10/15/2002 5:15:36 PM PDT by marron
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This is going to be a meat grinder in the next 10 years or so if we keep are back turned to this growing threat.

May I respectfully say: pooh. Those gomers are going from incompetant to lunacy. They will destroy themselves. And those hordes of hungry goofballs cant really do a mass movement to north america - the Panama Canal is a tough swim. Seriously, socialists are alot like the hatians who have cut down the last remaining tree on the island to make charcoal. I'd say they are toast...but thats a bad mix of metaphors.

9 posted on 10/15/2002 5:31:43 PM PDT by corkoman
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10 posted on 10/15/2002 5:40:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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These guys are sympathetic to the communist cause. That being said, they always give into the bigger socialist, i.e. they get more guns, goodies, money for themselves, etc. China having a very long range outlook on things, which the West does not, will see this as an opportunity for isolating the U.S. so it can build its hegemony in the Pacific. Secondly, after building that hegemony, it can then set its sits on the U.S. mainland itself. It always helps to have the ability to have a base or bases of operation near your target(in this case the same hemisphere).

So it is best to deal with it now and not later or leave things to their own devices. Where as Socialist/Communist/ Marxists are their own worst enemy I would rather they not take out my country or a major portion of its infrastructure and population when they do go the way of the Dodo. Anything they seem to touch gets destroyed including themselves in the end.
11 posted on 10/15/2002 6:51:58 PM PDT by DarkWaters
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This is a good synopsis on the origins of terrorism. And to sum it up from there:

'Communism - Not Islam'

The only problem is that people don't understand and don't want to, the nature of Socialism and such. As I have had it pointed out to me in the past: the Leninist/Marxist Revolution subsists on deception and terrorism from the start. Otherwise, it is doom to failure before it even begins. I just love(or should I say dread) the scissor strategy.
12 posted on 10/15/2002 7:19:34 PM PDT by DarkWaters
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It will require the ability to recognize that democracy can be corrupted by self-destructive political whims.

Can you say Democrat Party? The Democrats are the biggest threat to our freedom. If we can liberate ourselves from the internal leftists the external threats can be handled. They will eventually self destruct.

How important is the upcoming election and control of Congress? Can we say survival??

13 posted on 10/15/2002 7:23:27 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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Aligning Brazil, a nation of 180 million people with the world's eight-largest economy, would be a significant achievement.

Brazil would soon be the 18th largest economy.

Interesting to see how Argentina would react.

14 posted on 10/15/2002 9:08:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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December 29, 2000 - Fidel, Saddam and Hugo --An improbable but growing friendship of three military revolutionaries***The Iraqi link is one aspect of Mr. Chávez's international involvements that the United States must not underestimate, with Cuba playing a central role. Since he took office in February 1999, Mr. Chávez has proclaimed his "identification" with the Cuban revolution. He visited Havana and entertained Mr. Castro in Caracas for five days last October. Mr. Castro treated Mr. Chávez as a son, an attitude seldom displayed by the Cuban leader toward any young people. During that same visit, Mr. Chávez granted Cuba large crude-oil price discounts, as he has done selectively elsewhere in the Caribbean, and agreed to help complete building a Cuban oil refinery.

Mr. Castro is Mr. Chávez's guide in the art of gently and gradually introducing authoritarian government to Venezuela. Mr. Chávez abolished the Senate and established a unicameral Parliament whose members support him. He has a new constitution, approved by a simple majority of voters in a referendum, that grants him considerable power.

To complicate matters and his relations with the United States, Mr. Chávez has been openly supporting leftist guerrilla movements in neighboring Colombia. The rebels control big swaths of Colombian territory, along with numerous coca plantations. Washington has already committed $1.3 billion, mainly in military aid, to the eradication of both guerrillas and coca plantations. This could foreshadow a big U.S. commitment in Colombia and an eventual conflict with Mr. Chávez that may interfere with the flow of oil north from Venezuela.***

Letter: Castro Made Soviets Worried***Weeks after the Soviet Union agreed to pull offensive missiles from Cuba in 1962, Nikita Khrushchev was worried that an "irrational" Fidel Castro would renew tensions with the United States, possibly even provoking a war, newly released documents show. Cuba "wants practically to drag us behind it with a leash, and wants to pull us into a war with America by its actions," Khrushchev said in a Nov. 16 letter to diplomatic aides in Cuba.***

Outide View: Castro on the Skids***In international capital markets, reputation is everything. So it was little surprise when Reuters reported on July 8 that, "Direct foreign investment in Cuba plummeted to $38.9 million in 2001 from $488 million the year before." And earlier in the year, despite Castro's tantrum, Russia closed its spy facility near Havana, which will cost the Cuban government $200 million per year in foregone rent payments. Castro's current creditors are far from happy with these circumstances, as many have not received payment on interest of principal credit since 1986. Without even counting Castro's debt to Russia, which he will not pay because he declares his debt is to a country that "no longer exists," Havana owes billions of dollars to western banks and former socialist countries.***

Cuba shuts sugar mills - workers hold 9th grade education - degree not any better *** Since many sugar workers have only a ninth-grade education, officials said the government is building new schools to allow them to receive a salary while studying for their high-school diplomas. Classes will include computer training, as well as vocational skills for the emerging industries, they said. Whether there will be jobs for everyone, and whether the restructuring of the sugar industry will suffice to ease Cuba's economic problems are both uncertain, said Antonio Jorge, a professor of economics at Florida International University.

Cuba imports about twice as much as it exports, and has high debt, including loans from Russia that have yet to be renegotiated, while European companies have suspended commercial credit for nonpayment, Jorge said. "Cuba's economy is at a very crucial moment," the professor said. "It doesn't possess the capability to keep on importing and that means major crisis." ***

THE CONGRESS AND SENATE'S SUPPORT OF CASTRO'S TERROR NETWORK*** World renown and highly respected American investigative journalist and author, Claire Sterling, who is considered one of the foremost experts on international terrorism, wrote in 1981 a definitive report on this theme in her book "The Terror Network, The Secret War on International terrorism." According to her: "All of the world's emerging terrorist bands in the 1970's were indebted to the Cubans and their Russian patrons for that honeycomb of camps around Havana. None could have started without rudimentary training, and those who didn't train in Cuba were trained by others who did." Twenty years later, the central and main head of the terrorism network is still the same diabolical tyrant, Fidel Castro. What Sterling wrote then, still applies and helps to understand the central role of Castro in today's terrorist explosion and his relationship with the "axis of evil." ***

Russian Expert: 'Strong Suspicions' of Cuban Bio Threat***Currently, thousands of Cuban scientists laboring at 38 institutes continue to refine products for treatment of cancers of the lung, head, neck, breast and ovaries, as well as chemo-therapeutics derived from snake venom, an epidermal growth factor, and a recombinant vaccine against ticks. Castro's ultimate propaganda message is that his country is selflessly working to provide affordable life-saving meds to an overlooked Third World still dying in droves from AIDS and even cholera. If all this is but a covering ruse to proliferate forbidden technologies to dangerous foes, it is that much more dangerous and sinister. Experts like Alibek, who have been to the dark side, are very skeptical of Cuba's intentions - despite all the window dressing.***

Defector sees Cuba in crisis***He said Raul Castro, 71, is less inclined toward one-man rule and would be more flexible in allowing reforms, but that he drinks too much and is not very healthy. Mr. Hidalgo said that Fidel Castro, who turned 76 last week, took better care of himself. Using intelligence culled from a Russian spy facility at Lourdes in Cuba, Mr. Hidalgo worked as part of a high-level Cuban delegation to Iraq in early 1991 that tried to convince Saddam Hussein that he could not win a war against the United States. "We told him he'd be defeated, and that would be a defeat for every revolutionary force in the world," said Mr. Hidalgo, who has met Saddam on several occasions. "He didn't listen. He was very rude. Saddam is a disgusting person."

Rumsfeld Bluntly Warns Russia Ties To Iraq Will Hurt It*** "What that tells people in business is that is not an environment that is hospitable for investment, that it is not a place that they want to invest....To the extent that the country is saying to world that they want to be known as close personal friends to Saddam Hussein, and Fidel Castro and Kim Jong Il and those folks, it sends a signal that is harmful to them," Rumsfeld said. In another part of his remarks, Rumsfeld also included Libya in the list of states he was warning Russia not to do business with.***

Venezuela-Libya Ties Coming to the Surface ***However, Venezuelan sources with longtime ties to Rich said negotiations with Crown Resources ended last year when a due diligence investigation turned up "troubling indications" of links with suspected Russian mobsters. Rich, who fled to Switzerland to avoid tax-evasion charges and was pardoned by former President Bill Clinton in January 2001, may have feared running afoul of legal authorities in the United States and Europe if he closed a deal with the firm. If the allegations involving Crown Resources are accurate, it would indicate that high-level officials in the Chavez regime are involved not only in questionable loan and investment negotiations with the governments of Libya and Cuba, but also with a company alleged to have ties to some members of Russia's criminal underworld.***

Fidel Castro - Cuba

Hugo Chavez - Venezuela

15 posted on 10/16/2002 12:52:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Castro accuses Czechs of Spying

Havana: Cuban leader Fidel Castro has accused the Czech Republic of spying on his country in a blistering verbal attack. The Czech embassy in Havana was "a cave of spies" which had "spent 10 years spying," he said on Friday, during the final session of an international economists' meeting in Havana. His comments came as Cuba continued to hold two Czech officials, arrested in the central Cuban province of Ciego de Avila on January 12, 2001 after meeting pro-democracy dissidents.

Castro demanded that the Czech Republic offer an apology for the activities of former Czech Finance Minister Ivan Pilip and former student leader Jan Bubenik who were charged with acting against Cuba's security and inciting a rebellion. Cuban authorities have claimed the two detainees acted on behalf of American interests, gathering information and providing instructions to anti-communist dissidents. They could face up to 20 years in jail if convicted.

Czech President Vaclav Havel has refused to apologise but Castro suggested such action would help solve the dispute between the two countries.

"Offer an apology to our country -- there must be an excuse," Castro said. "We are telling the truth and we have the proof."

U.S. officials have branded the accusations "ludicrous" and Havel and Prime Minister Milos Zeman said the country had no reason to apologise. "There have not been any credible charges nor any substantial evidence brought against our two citizens, so I see no reason why we should apologise in this matter," Zeman said earlier.

Czech Senate President Petr Pithart is currently in Cuba hoping to meet Castro to discuss the case. Pilip's wife, Lucie, who visited her husband in prison last week, said the two are in good spirits and good physical condition and are awaiting trial, expected within 60 days - "Castro accuses Czechs of spying," CNN, The Associated Press contributed to this report, Feb 3, 2001

16 posted on 10/16/2002 12:57:50 AM PDT by piasa
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Thank you for the post piasa. This is worth following.


17 posted on 10/16/2002 1:12:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Cuba frees jailed Czechs

HAVANA (CNN) -- Two prominent Czech citizens who had been held on state security charges since January 12 were freed Monday after they admitted they broke Cuban law by meeting with dissidents.

Former Finance Minister Ivan Pilip, 37, and former student leader Jan Bubenik, 32, went to Havana's airport, where they were to board a flight scheduled to depart late Monday for Madrid.

The two men were freed after they were taken to the Foreign Ministry, where they signed a statement saying they had unwittingly violated Cuban laws when they met with dissidents here in January, sources involved in the agreement told CNN.

In addition to apologizing to the Cuban people, they acknowledged having received money from Freedom House, a non-government organization in the United States that receives money from the U.S. government to help support the dissident movement in Cuba.

Serving as intermediaries for the Czech government, Anders Johnson, secretary-general of the Inter-Parliamentary Union and Juan Pablo Letelier, president of the group's human rights commission, brokered the deal after meeting with Cuban officials.

Letelier is the son of Orlando Letelier, the former Chilean ambassador to the United States who was killed in Washington in 1976 by a car bomb blamed on anti-Castro Cuban exiles.

Cuba had threatened to put Pilip and Bubenik on trial for subversion, prompting an international uproar.

18 posted on 10/16/2002 1:30:31 AM PDT by piasa
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Arrests show Cuba's harsh new view of Czechs : Newspaper cites Czech role in U.N. resolution

Pilip, one of two Czech nationals arrested on January 12, will be put on trial as a pro-United States agent

In this story:

By Lucia Newman, CNN Havana Bureau Chief

HAVANA, Cuba (CNN)-- Czechs and Cubans once considered themselves brothers living on the same side of the ideological fence.

This week's announcement by the Cuban government that two Czech citizens arrested January 12 will be put on trial as pro-United States agents is proof of just how much has changed since the fall of communism in Eastern Europe.

In an icy-toned announcement, Cuba's Communist Party daily, "Granma", denounced former Czech finance Minister and current member of parliament Ivan Pilip, and former student leader and Czech pro-democracy foundation member Jan Bubenik, as "agents working for the Cuban-American Mafia in the United States."

The Czechs arrived in Cuba on January 8 on tourist visas and were arrested after meeting with Cuban government opponents in Ciego de Avila, about 185 miles southeast of Havana.

Accused of conspiring

The Cuban government says they were "conspiring against the revolution" and "have no right to impunity, whatever their position and rank."

Although the Cuban government has in the past denounced alleged "counter-revolutionary" activities by several visitors from former Socialist-bloc countries, this is the first time that any have been arrested to face trial.

Just what they will be charged with is still unclear. In Cuba those found guilty of crimes against the state regularly receive sentences ranging from five to 20 years in prison.

Despite protests from the Czech Republic's foreign ministry demanding the release of Pilip and Bubenik, Havana appears unmoved.

Cuba has not forgotten or forgiven

Cuban authorities have not forgotten nor forgiven the Czech Republic for co-sponsoring a joint resolution last year before the United Nations' Human Rights Commission, condemning Cuba for rights abuses.

In response, the Cuban government organized a massive protest march on April 18 in front of the Czech Embassy in Havana, where thousands of demonstrators shouted "down with the Czech lackeys of U.S. imperialism."

Cubans protested in front of the Czech Embassy in Havana on April 18, 2000, following the Czech sponsorship of a U.N. Human Rights Commission resolution critical of the Cuban record on human rights

This sort of reaction is normally reserved for protests against the United States. Recently, however, the attacks have broadened to include citizens of former Socialist countries such as Poland, Romania and the Czech Republic, who are accused of co-operating with Washington in its efforts to undermine Cuba's Communist system.

Cuban authorities claim these "agents of U.S. interests" regularly shuttle money and subversive literature from the United States to Cuban dissidents. Elizardo Sanchez, president of the Cuban Human Rights and Reconciliation Commission, denies receiving any kind of assistance from the Czechs, adding the two men under arrest committed no crime.

The Cuban government's decision to arrest and try, rather than simply expel, the two Czechs indicates, that for Havana it is payback time, according to observers.

"The Foreign Ministry of the Czech Republic, with its haughtiness, arrogance and stridence, has protested the arrests of these men employed by the Empire," said Granma.

"But their hysterical cries have no value, just as the Czech government gave no importance to its shameful role as an instrument of the United States in the infamous accusations against Cuba in the Human Rights Commission in Geneva."

A date for a hearing for the two Czech citizens has not been set

19 posted on 10/16/2002 1:38:27 AM PDT by piasa
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***Cuba had threatened to put Pilip and Bubenik on trial for subversion, prompting an international uproar.***

Castro runs a tight terror ship.

20 posted on 10/16/2002 1:42:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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