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To: Luis Gonzalez
I guess the fact that those illegals more than likely did not manufacture those ID's, and that fake ID's are available from many, many sources doesn't bother you.

The many many sources is exactly what I'm talking about. It is completely irrelevant who exactly is making them. Since the forms and ID in this article come from the DMV I dont think anyone would know they are looking at false documentation.

I have a problem with people breaking the law, period. I don't draw a distinction between an illegal immigrant, and a native son.

Illegal immigration has created a criminal highway that makes it so easy to acquire false documentation. This can be used by laborers, drug dealers, terrorists, etc..

128 posted on 10/16/2002 6:44:46 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
"It is completely irrelevant who exactly is making them."

Are you nuts?

That's the single most relevant thing about the whole issue of fake ID's!

Is it somehow better in your mind that terrorists get fake ID's from citizens instead of from illegal immigrants?

Because terrorists WILL get fake ID's, even after you get rid of every single illegal immigrant in the nation, if you do not get rid of the source!

"Since the forms and ID in this article come from the DMV..."

And that's the scariest and most relevant fact about where they come from!

They come from the people who are supposed to be enforcing the law!

You can't indentify the disease because you're busy cursing the symptoms!

130 posted on 10/16/2002 6:54:58 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: PuNcH
In the article itself is the perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Once the LEO's arrested the guys helping illegals obtain fake ID's, they helped control the number of illegals obtaining fake ID's more efficiently than by busting illegals with fake ID's.

Eliminate the source of the problem, and the problem goes away all by itself.

Yes, illegal immigration is bad, we need to cure the disease, not medicate the symptoms.
132 posted on 10/16/2002 7:00:01 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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