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To: 30-06 Springfield
"The firing pin indentation signature leads one then to speculate on the feds starting to "print" each and every firearm before it leaves the factory or dealer. Is that good or bad?

This topic was raised on Greta Van Susterens's program last night. That each fiearm purchase should be run threw the LE who fires 3 rounds and keeps the shells on record. I totally disagree with even HINTING at this procedure. The assumption is all gun owners are "Potential Criminals of America". There were 80 million (?) gun owners yesterday who didn't shoot anybody.

40 posted on 10/08/2002 5:10:20 AM PDT by two23
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To: two23
The assumption is all gun owners are "Potential Criminals of America".

No, hardly. The premise is that guns, in the wrong hands, are potential death dealing devices.

Does every gun owner have every gun locked up beyond any possibility of theft?

57 posted on 10/08/2002 5:23:45 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: two23
That each fiearm purchase should be run threw the LE who fires 3 rounds and keeps the shells on record. I totally disagree with even HINTING at this procedure.

Wouldn't this have a trade off? Say your gun gets stolen. You report it. Later someone is shot, they not only would know that you didn't have anything to do with it, but they now know exactly what to look for.

I guess I don't see the problem with it. Guns are designed to kill or maim in self defense. It would seem the only reason to not want the prcedure done would be if the person were going to use to kill or maim in situations other than self defense. ???

67 posted on 10/08/2002 5:30:02 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: two23
Other people's brass is plentiful at the range. Wouldn't be hard to toss some and boom the cops arrest the wrong guy based on a spent case in the database. Besides, the case marks don't necessarily stay the same. The breachface can be polished, or an aftermarket barrel put on, or a new firing pin inserted.
73 posted on 10/08/2002 5:34:37 AM PDT by Noslrac
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To: two23
Maryland already has a "ballistic fingerprint" law regarding handguns. Any handgun sold in Maryland has to provide a spent casing to the State Police (I've purchased handguns in New Mexico and they have had a spent case included from the factory). Doesn't apply to long guns (as far as I know) and only applies to Maryland purchases.
104 posted on 10/08/2002 6:06:00 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: two23
"The firing pin indentation signature leads one then to speculate on the feds starting to "print" each and every firearm before it leaves the factory or dealer. Is that good or bad?

This topic was raised on Greta Van Susterens's program last night. That each fiearm purchase should be run threw the LE who fires 3 rounds and keeps the shells on record. I totally disagree with even HINTING at this procedure. The assumption is all gun owners are "Potential Criminals of America". There were 80 million (?) gun owners yesterday who didn't shoot anybody.

Catalog ballistic printing is a falicy of the worst kind. True, you can match a bullet & cartridge to a gun but to catalog thousands of rounds and expect to create a database is bunk. Guns are frequenty modified, chambers polished, bores lapped, firing pins polished etc. The likelyhood of of tracing a gun back to it's owner in this manner is near impossible. Just a waste of taxpayers money.

123 posted on 10/08/2002 6:19:00 AM PDT by chuknospam
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To: two23; 30-06 Springfield
"The firing pin indentation signature leads one then to speculate on the feds starting to "print" each and every firearm before it leaves the factory or dealer. Is that good or bad?

This topic was raised on Greta Van Susterens's program last night. That each fiearm purchase should be run threw the LE who fires 3 rounds and keeps the shells on record. I totally disagree with even HINTING at this procedure. The assumption is all gun owners are "Potential Criminals of America". There were 80 million (?) gun owners yesterday who didn't shoot anybody.

The media has already branded all gun owners as "Potential Criminals of America".

It is the sniper, not the rifle, that is committing these murders. Now, let's imagine that the rifle is magically turned into a living, breathing, NRA membership-card-carrying, loyal American citizen by America's guardian angel for one hour.

What would the rifle do with his one hour of life as an American citizen?

The rifle would pick up the phone, call the Tips Hotline and turn in the murderer.

Would the rifle be a turning in a member of his own family? Yes. Just as the Unabomber's own brother turned in a murdering member of his own family. If you are going around murdering people, you deserve to get turned in. Even if it's by your own mother.

Why do we rightly criticize many Muslims in this country after 9/11? It is because their main concern is, "How dare the rest of America feel suspicious about us" instead of "What can we do to expose the terrorists that hide amongst us".

If this technology helps us enlist the help of the gun to separate the murderes amongst us from the vast majority of law abiding gun owners, that is good for everybody except the murderer.

166 posted on 10/08/2002 6:42:50 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: two23
"This topic was raised on Greta Van Susterens's program last night. That each fiearm purchase should be run threw the LE who fires 3 rounds and keeps the shells on record. I totally disagree with even HINTING at this procedure. The assumption is all gun owners are "Potential Criminals of America". There were 80 million (?) gun owners yesterday who didn't shoot anybody."

That's already law in Maryland..... for HANDGUNS. Poor Maryland gun-grabbers.... didn't work as well as they hoped it would, now did it? (No shells on record for rifles)
380 posted on 10/08/2002 8:57:54 AM PDT by cyphergirl
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