[Askel5]

2309.       "The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration.

The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy.

At one and the same time:

• the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
  
  
• all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
  
  
• there must be serious prospects of success;
  
  
• the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
  

These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the 'JUST WAR' doctrine.

The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good."

[Drango]

The animals spirits are in a worldwide frenzy

I gave up after reading this...

[nunya bidness]

And they will take our quotes and use it. They could take our legislation and use it. So, yes … I think what we're doing here in re-doing this policy has really changed things a lot and that is probably the thing that we should fear the most.

Good point. I think Ron knows that the Nuclear Club is not admitting any new members. Especially a country that sits in the middle of the ring of fire.

[hinckley buzzard]

"Even the Persian Gulf War might have been better fought by Israel and Moderate Arabs..."

Yuh. THAT was really likely ever to happen, at least on this planet. Don't know about the one Ron Paul inhabits. This interview reveals Paul to be a banal and unexceptional thinker, but at least he got his 15 minutes of fame, courtesy of the liberal drunk.

[FreeReign]

MOYERS: You've been consistent in your conservative positions:

Paul is not a Conservative -- he's a libertarian.

[secretagent]

Paul would call for an end to all U.S. funding of Israel, I believe, along with an end to U.S. funding of Egypt and the PLO via the U.N.

Israel might collapse without U.S. welfare, and then pose no counter to Saddam.

[FreeReign]

And when Israel went in and took out that nuclear reactor in the early 1980s, actually I was one of the very few Republicans who supported it! It's in their interest to deal with it.

Paul liked when Israel used a "pre-emptive" strike.

[MissAmericanPie]

How disappointing I thought Ron Paul had more sense than this.

[FreeReign]

MOYERS: Have you seen or heard anything from the CIA, the Pentagon, the State Department or the White House to suggest that Saddam Hussein is planning an attack on the United States?

PAUL: No, I see nothing imminent. He doesn't have an air force. He doesn't have a navy. He can't even shoot down … he didn't shoot one of our airplanes down in twelve years … and his army is 1/3 of what it was twelve years ago. So, you know, this fictions that he's Hitler and that he's about to take over the Middle East … I think it's a stretch.

Paul thinks that the Iraqi air force, navy and army are the biggest Iraqi dangers to the U.S. With his above answer to Moyers question, he avoids completely the dangers of WMD and terrorism.

[Fred Mertz]

This is good, an excellent post.

I only caught bits and pieces of Ron Paul this evening, but his words and principles are spot on.

[rb22982]

Paul is spot on, with the sole exception he doesn't consider WMD and sponsorship of terrorism.

[Int]

bump for the Brave

[Consort]

PAUL: No, I see nothing imminent. He doesn't have an air force. He doesn't have a navy. He can't even shoot down … he didn't shoot one of our airplanes down in twelve years … and his army is 1/3 of what it was twelve years ago. So, you know, this fictions that he's Hitler and that he's about to take over the Middle East … I think it's a stretch.

Paul is talking convention warfare and Bus has stated several times that we are fighting a new and different kind of war. Does Paul have Attention Deficit Disorder?