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Democracy Has Failed, Say Argentines
BBC News ^ | October 3, 2002 | Peter Greste

Posted on 10/03/2002 7:32:13 PM PDT by Tancred

At least 90% of Argentines have no confidence in either their government or their democratic institutions, according to a survey.

The poll shows the vast majority of the country believes democracy has failed them.

The results are so startling that the organization which conducted the survey, Latinobarometro, has subtitled it "The Argentine Consensus".

However you look at this survey, it is impossible to escape the sense of disillusionment that Argentines feel towards not just their government but to every institution that makes up their democracy.

'Extraordinary'

Eighty-eight per cent of the population has no confidence in the people running the country. There is 95% dissatisfaction with political parties and over 90% dissatisfaction with everything from National Congress to the judicial system, banks and even the markets.

According to Marta Lagos of the Mori polling organisation, even for a country experiencing a crisis like Argentina's, the figures are startling.

"This is something absolutely extraordinary in an opinion poll which I have not seen in my professional life and which means, in my interpretation, there are no institutions in Argentina," she said.

"These institutions have been blown out of people's credibility and therefore they're not being considered."

'Best alternative'

Yet despite the complete lack of confidence in the way the system has been working so far, 65% of Argentines still believe that democracy is the best alternative.

And for Marta Lagos, the survey is the clearest sign yet that the country may still be able to turn the worst economic crisis in its history into an historic opportunity.

"This type of consensus is clearly going to bring up something, and therefore one should interpret it as a strong indicator of a positive demand towards a proper system."

But she goes even further, suggesting that it might well mean a period of even greater political upheaval for Argentina while its politicians bend beneath the undeniable current of embittered public opinion.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: argentina; latinamericalist; shows
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1 posted on 10/03/2002 7:32:13 PM PDT by Tancred
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To: Tancred
Failure is as failure does.
2 posted on 10/03/2002 7:34:58 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Tancred
Argentina failed says Democracy.
3 posted on 10/03/2002 7:37:05 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: PoorMuttly
Oh, come on Argentina... It can't be THAT bad.

Its not like your Court system arbitrarily makes new law nullifying your elected reps...

4 posted on 10/03/2002 7:37:49 PM PDT by C210N
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To: Tancred
Republicanism with its inherent guarantees of individual rights which neither the gov't nor the people may legally or morally violate is the better system.
5 posted on 10/03/2002 7:39:05 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: Tancred
There is a lesson in Argentina, once a prosperous country, for us the somnambulist US residents, because we are surely heading in the same direction and will get there soon enough. No, folks we'reno better than them and we even produced our own Peron couple to boot!
6 posted on 10/03/2002 7:39:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Tancred
90% of Argentines have no confidence in either their government or their democratic institutions, according to a survey...

...Yet despite the complete lack of confidence in the way the system has been working so far, 65% of Argentines still believe that democracy is the best alternative.

What the hell does this story mean, then?

7 posted on 10/03/2002 7:40:20 PM PDT by TheBigTown
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To: Tancred
Now they will democratically vote themselves into non-democratic slavery, which is perfectly legal. In fact, we're doing it here.
8 posted on 10/03/2002 7:41:15 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Tancred
Yet despite the complete lack of confidence in the way the system has been working so far, 65% of Argentines still believe that democracy is the best alternative.

Well, you can't blame them for criticizing the institutions that have put them in this fix. But the above I've read before: "Democracy is the worst form of government known to man...except for all the others." They'll work it out.

9 posted on 10/03/2002 7:44:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tancred
Democracy doesn't work for countries that don't have a Judeo-Christian foundation. This was well known to the founding fathers.
10 posted on 10/03/2002 7:53:25 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Tancred
Democracy is merely the tyrrany of the whims of the mob called the majority (of eligible voters... who bother to vote... usually about 20% of the public is enough). It matters little that the people are given the right to choose their individual tyrants. True success lies in guaranteeing a small central government, with many levels of inefficient chacks and balances, limited in scope and powers, mandated to respect the rights of INDIVIDUALS (not groups), and which is accountable to the voters. Everything else has been shown, repeatedly, to be a recipe for failure.
11 posted on 10/03/2002 8:04:32 PM PDT by Teacher317
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12 posted on 10/03/2002 8:20:40 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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13 posted on 10/03/2002 8:22:46 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Cacique
Don't cry for me Argentina ping!
14 posted on 10/03/2002 8:24:50 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tancred
¡Quizás haré Rey del la Argentina!
15 posted on 10/03/2002 8:25:00 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Tancred
Democracy always fails, because it is actually mobocracy.
16 posted on 10/03/2002 8:25:25 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: RLK
Now they will democratically vote themselves into non-democratic slavery, which is perfectly legal. In fact, we're doing it here.

Too late, both in terms of pragmatism and rhetoric; Argentina, unfortunately, for those who know nothing about its past limitations and parameters, took the road suggested, by us, no less.

We are both paying heavy dividends now, and will continue to do so.

17 posted on 10/03/2002 8:30:04 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Tancred
Next time try a Republic. All our founding fathers said democracy was one of the worst forms of government, and totally self-destructive.
18 posted on 10/03/2002 8:32:11 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: Tancred
In the absence of war, revolution, famine, and disease, societies tend to become highly differentiated, stratified and oligarchic. Democracy is a transitional form of organization.
19 posted on 10/03/2002 8:36:20 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Tancred
The Founding Fathers understood the difference between a democracy and a republic. They knew the history of the rise and fall of preceding civilizations and concluded that a democracy was a self-destructive and relatively short-lived system of government. John Adams summarized the prevailing view when he warned, “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

The primary distinction between a republic and a democracy is found in the assignment and function of authority. In a democracy, the power belongs directly to the populace, and authority is derived from mass assemblies. Important issues of law and policy are decided by the direct vote of the population. Political and legislative control belongs to those citizens who make up the plurality on any given issue and, quite literally, the majority rules.

In a republic, the population elects representatives to pass laws and do the business of the government. Authority is derived indirectly through representation. Most importantly, justice is administered and legislation is constructed according to fixed principles and the rule of law. Simply put, laws govern, not men.

20 posted on 10/03/2002 8:42:02 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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