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'Darkman' vs. 'Marathon Man'
TownHall.com ^ | Thursday, October 3, 2002 | by Ben Shapiro

Posted on 10/02/2002 11:01:21 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

I don't normally look for deep messages in movies, aside from "The Godfather," which contains most of the lessons anyone needs in life. But the contrast between "Darkman," starring Liam Neeson, and "Marathon Man," starring Dustin Hoffman, is interesting, especially in light of the current debate on Iraq.

In "Marathon Man," Dustin Hoffman plays a university student studying for his Ph.D. His brother, a U.S. undercover agent played by Roy Scheider, is killed by Lawrence Olivier, a former Nazi looking to reclaim jewels stashed in a New York bank. To make a long story short, the last scene opens with Hoffman holding Olivier at gunpoint, forcing him to swallow his own jewels. Olivier swallows one and then says, "You'll just have to shoot me." When Hoffman hesitates, Olivier states: "You won't do it. You don't have it in you." Hoffman doesn't do it, so Olivier pulls a blade on him. Hoffman tosses the jewels down a flight of stairs; Olivier runs down the stairs trying to save the jewels, trips, falls and impales himself on his own knife.

In "Darkman," Liam Neeson plays a scientist who is permanently scarred after a corporate strongman, played by Colin Friels, orders Neeson's lab to be blown up. In the final scene, Neeson and Friels duke it out on the framework of a skyscraper, 650 feet above the ground. When Friels slips, Neeson catches him by the foot and holds him upside down. Friels begins laughing. "You let me die, you become as bad as I am -- worse!" he scoffs. "You can't. I know you too well. Dropping me, it's not really an option for you. It's not something you can live with." Neeson drops him. Splat. Neeson mutters: "I'm learning to live with a lot of things."

Believe it or not, the contrast between the two endings sheds light on the partisan battle that has erupted concerning congressional approval of an upcoming attack on Iraq. Like both Olivier's Nazi and Friels' corrupt businessman, Saddam Hussein is a vicious brute who needs to get it, one way or another. The question is whether we'll dither around and hope for him to impale himself, or whether we'll drop him 65 stories to the concrete.

Those who oppose this war want to dither. "You don't start out by putting the gun to their head and saying we're going to shoot you if you blink," snorted Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Idaho), who later impugned President Bush's honesty, saying, "I think the president would mislead the American people."

"There is no evidence that I have seen that indicates there is an imminent threat," wailed Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). "They don't want to be having knocked on the door during prayer and say, 'Open up this building in five minutes,'" said Rep. David Bonior (D-Mich.). "They want to be treated with some dignity and respect."

Dignity and respect? Did I miss something here, or has Saddam Hussein ignored U.N. resolution upon U.N. resolution demanding the return of weapons inspectors to Iraq? And even when the weapons inspectors were allowed in the country, wasn't Hussein simply playing cat and mouse by shuttling his weapons of mass destruction from building to building? Isn't this the dictator who used chemical weapons against his own people? Who fired Scud missiles on Israel, a non-combatant in the Gulf War? Since when are we supposed to "respect" vicious dictators?

Then, there are those in Congress who want to go get Saddam. "I'm not willing to wait until something happens to this country," stated Sen. James Inhoff (R-Okla.). Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla.) called the Iraq naysayers "spokespersons for the Iraqi government," which is undoubtedly true -- Hussein's demands are being voiced by appeasement-minded government officials.

The lawmakers who continue to ask for "just one more chance" for Saddam to let in weapons inspectors are playing with fire. In "Marathon Man," Olivier pulls a knife on a pacifistic Hoffman, and only by luck does Hoffman avoid his own demise. If America appeases Saddam, it is only a matter of time until he pulls a nuclear weapon -- and we can't rely on Saddam to fall on his own knife.

Granted, this war may not be pretty. It will probably involve civilian casualties; it will certainly involve heavy use of the military. Saddam thinks we won't be able to live with the consequences of an attack on Baghdad. We're learning to live with a lot of things.


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Thursday, October 3, 2002

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1 posted on 10/02/2002 11:01:21 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
That's an interesting article. The only thing I take issue with is the author's glorification of the messages in the Godfather, a tale that essentially focuses on men of great evil(in real life, that honor does not exist, and these are petty brutal men)

As a film fan, and aspiring writer/actor, I'd say the kinds of themes and messages he points to, are in many films of all kinds. Some are delivered in a hamfisted way(see John Singleton) and others are handled masterfully(see M Night Shyalaman's Unbreakable) I wish more people would see that there are great pieces of art, or worthwhile messages out there in film, DESPITE the leftist bias in Hollywood(and indy productions)
2 posted on 10/02/2002 11:11:22 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: JohnHuang2
The Marathon Man reference makes me think the Dems should ask Isreal "Is it safe?"

Not a movie to watch before a dental exam.
3 posted on 10/02/2002 11:20:52 PM PDT by shadowman99
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To: JohnHuang2
This jerk just ruined Marathon Man for me.
4 posted on 10/02/2002 11:32:28 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Captainpaintball
Ruined it for you? After three decades, there's no such thing as a "spoiler." After three days, yes, perhaps.
6 posted on 10/03/2002 1:18:38 AM PDT by Greybird
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To: Captainpaintball
Darth Vader is really Luke's Father.
7 posted on 10/03/2002 1:22:04 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: Captainpaintball
Michael Corleone doesn't go legit, he becomes the new Godfather
8 posted on 10/03/2002 3:25:36 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: JohnHuang2
Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Idaho)...it's D-Washington, but really D-Baghdad.
9 posted on 10/03/2002 3:39:13 AM PDT by RWG
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To: JohnHuang2
'Darkman' vs. 'Marathon Man'

Yeah, but what about Duckman?
10 posted on 10/03/2002 3:49:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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"Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?”

“That's right, Matrix. You did!”

"I lied!”

11 posted on 10/03/2002 4:09:00 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Skywalk
see M Night Shyalaman's Unbreakable

Seconded. Far and away, it's his best film.

12 posted on 10/03/2002 4:53:24 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: JohnHuang2
We are living in a time when the concept of how war is fought has changed. The ability of a foe to enter into their enemy's camp and destroy mass numbers of people has never before been so easy. Even the enemy needn't be a country or even a group, it can be just one individual. Since the method and means of warfare has changed, the method and means of protection must change with it. America is undergoing just such a change. We are being forced by the circumstances in which we find ourselves, to confront this new level of hostility. It requires a radical reexamination of virtually everything we do and need to do to deal with this insidious form of evil. Fortunately, America has a president that sees how very differently the shape modern warfare has taken. President Bush may or may not be the best president ever but he is certainly the best president we could have for this time.
13 posted on 10/03/2002 7:40:29 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: aruanan
I preferred the Omega Man
14 posted on 10/03/2002 7:44:32 AM PDT by meowmeow
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To: meowmeow
I preferred the Omega Man

Or the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man
15 posted on 10/03/2002 8:12:55 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Captainpaintball
Ilsa stays with her husband and leaves Rick on the runway with Capitain Renault in Casablanca
16 posted on 10/03/2002 11:54:36 AM PDT by dinasour
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