CNN Breaking-GOP Not Waiting for SCONJ Decision..will file in Federal Court over Military Ballots!

October 2, 2002 | Judy Woodruff

[tip of the sword]

CNN just broke in and said that the GOP will not wait to find out the SCONJ decision.

They will bring a petition to Federal Court (eventual destination SCOTUS) on the Voting Rights Act with regard to the 1,800 already mailed absentee ballots in NJ.

[Magnum44]

NJ is a stagnant pool. Give it up.

I disagree. This should be fought on all fronts including the SCOTUS appeal. If for nothing else but to stop the circus that the election cycle has become.

[Edmund Burke]

How about John Ashcroft having Lautenberg indicted about 10 days before the election on some sort of charges?

[Havoc]

How about a more popular one: numbers in the law are just arbitrary things so who cares when people start smoking or drinking. If the numbers 18 and 21 are just there as place holders for an etherial unascertainable nonsubstantive, then 12 year olds can sip whiskey and chaw on cigars from here on out. Thank you Dims for enlightening us to arbitrary number systems. Wait, wouldn't this make affirmative action quotas arbitrary too. Hmmm.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

As for violent, bloody civil war, I'll say this. If our soldiers and/or citizens were arrested by UN police, I would call on every US citizen [myself included] to kill UN members, servants, etc. at every possible opportunity. FReegards....

[AmericaUnited]

NJ is lost to RATs. That's not our fault, that's just how it is.

What an utterly defeatist loser! Lautenliar still has to win and I don't think he will! It's still Forrester's to lose!

[fogarty]

Buy ammo my friend. The day will come when locking and loading is the only solution. Chance favors the prepared mind. And the prepared mind keeps his firearms at the ready.

[Magnum44]

We can't let this turn into a momentous Supreme Court decision because we'll be on the losing end of the PR war.

This will be decided one way or the other in two weeks tops. We still have five weeks till the election. Iraq will be on the headlines for the next five weeks and for months afterward. I disagree with Morris here. The SCONJ clown act needs to be squashed.

[elbucko]

If the RATS pull another dirty strategy - they will be seen for what they are!!

I hope you're right, but I don't think the press will report this as played. The US press is "objective" in favor of the Democrats and "subjective" at the expense of Republicans.

We will have to wait for Anne Coulter (sorry no picture) to write the book "Battle of New Jersey", before some of the public will know what happened today.

[aristeides]

45 days or 35? Barone, one of the lawyers for the Republicans at the NJ oral argument today, seemed to be saying it was 35. I would like to have the cite for that.

[Amelia]

I heard the report on Georgia Public Radio News both this morning and this afternoon. I've been searching the website to see if they have an archives of those news stories, but haven't been able to find one.

I did find this story:

Georgia is rushing late absentee ballots to military personnel overseas, hoping to avoid a U.S. Justice Department lawsuit.

State law requires counties to have absentee ballots on hand 45 days before a general election. Georgia missed its Sept. 20 deadline for the Nov. 5 general election because of this year's compressed election schedule. The primary elections, normally held in July, were moved to August, pushing the runoff elections into September.

The 45-day deadline was set to comply with federal mandates designed to make it easier for U.S. military personnel stationed outside of the country to vote. The Justice Department has the authority to file suit against states that fail to comply. [more at link]

So I'm not sure quite what the federal law is.

[Arkinsaw]

Every political party other than the Dems, including the Libertarians, Conservatives, Republicans and Greens, should demand that any of their candidates that happen to be trailing in the polls be replaced in the ballots by some other candidate.

This is the proper way to fight this. By carrying the Supreme Court ruling to its ridiculous conclusion.

Forrester ought to drop the USSC try since it will be a steep uphill fight and gives the Democrats finger pointing material. Forrester's chance now is to say that he will take on whatever puppet the Democratic backroom spits out.

He should get creative and make fools of the Democrats for this stunt rather than continuing with the lawyers. I think the people would appreciate the unfairness of it all and support him.

[abner]

How about: I'll start paying taxes when I'm 100!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Federal law is very different than state law. The NJ Supreme court has complete say of what 52 days means in the state's rules. But Federal law is under Federal jurisdiction. A deliberate attempt to bypass Federal law is a slap in the face of Federal law. It's like jay-walking twice in front of a police car, smirking at the officer.

Now perhaps you are thinking that the Federal Supreme Court is the same as the NJ Supreme Court. Justice Clarence Thomas isn't like that. At the very least, we could get some strong dissenting statements. FReegards....

[Jim Noble]

>>And we have a good chance for the first time in 30 years to elect a Republican senator. I say fight. <<

By all means, fight.

But recognize that states where a delusional communist got 56% of the Presidential vote in 2000 will, in all likelihood, have two RAT Senators. It's not your fault, it's not the fault of the courts. It's the fault of the morons who live in your state.

Forrester must make the case (not hard, IMO) that he would be a better Senator than Lautenberg. Force the Dems to announce they will replace Lautenberg after he's elected. Expose the whole process for the farce it is.

My point is not that you should not fight (although I don't think it's wise to fight in the courts).

My point is that, in all the Republican "New Jerseys" in America, there are fourteen RAT Senators who should be defeated easily. It is unwise to waste effort or emotional energy on NJ that should be spent ridding the Senate of RATs from the Dakotas, Georgia, etc, etc.

[RobRoy]

I'll go on record as agreeing with that statement. And yes, I am quite armed, thank you

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

TY Amelia! Great find!

[Travis McGee]

Amen brother, and UNamericans like Bonier etc as well.

[Amelia]

I heard one of the Justices say something like, it is now 44 days before the elections and all of the military ballots still haven't been mailed out. So what?

I thought it was 34 days before the election?

[Spunky]

Looks like you found my other posting before I pointed it out to you. ;-)

[AmericaUnited]

Forrester needs to just kick Lautenliars butt so hard that none of this matters.