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To: TheBigB
A womans right to choose for herself regarding her reproductive health. Bush would have them all barefoot and pregnant.
23 posted on 10/02/2002 10:53:55 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: johnb838
Bush would have them all barefoot and pregnant.

According to whom?

26 posted on 10/02/2002 10:55:02 AM PDT by mhking
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To: johnb838
How about teaching the responsibilty of getting pregant and what it means to have self responsibilty instead of Teaching get pregant "it's ok go to the baby Butcher factories and well take care of it for you".
28 posted on 10/02/2002 10:56:51 AM PDT by repub32
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To: johnb838
You're thinking of the rapist, Bill Clinton.
29 posted on 10/02/2002 10:58:41 AM PDT by TheBigB
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To: johnb838
A womans right to choose for herself regarding her reproductive health.

Oh, you mean the right to murder an unborn human being. Got it.

Bush would have them all barefoot and pregnant.

You must be having flashbacks. That's Clinton you're thinking about.

30 posted on 10/02/2002 10:59:35 AM PDT by CheezyD
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To: johnb838
Bush would have them all barefoot and pregnant.

And you have the hypocritical nerve to talk about ad hominem attacks? ROFL!

31 posted on 10/02/2002 11:00:54 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: johnb838
You mean: "Kill her baby". But you haven't got the nerve to say what you mean.
42 posted on 10/02/2002 11:07:12 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: johnb838
Hi John,

I am a woman and I chose my form of birth control long before I engaged in any sexual activity. I am not one who will tell another woman what she must do, but in the same sense, I should not be responsible for her stupidity, carelessness, or any other reason for having an unwanted pregnancy.

I have always been told that abortion is for rape or incest. In this case, should not each woman who has an abortion, funded by my tax dollars, be required to identify the rapist or incestuous partner? Police should be at every Planned Parenthood clinic to file reports and then issue arrest warrants. This should definitely slow down the cases of mass rapes that apparently go unchecked in this country.

I doubt GW wants me pregnant and barefoot. He hasn't shut down the shoe industry yet. But maybe he feels like this woman (remember, I am a woman, and this is an issue that concerns me, more than a man, John) and thinks we should not have to abort to have birth control. The pill is almost 50 years old, condoms are fairly safe, my niece says her IUD has worked for over 25 years. How about those choices?

TC

48 posted on 10/02/2002 11:36:46 AM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: johnb838
If the fetus had the mother's dna an argument could be made, perhaps. It is not, it is a separate person and the mother is the vessel carrying that person. Where is that person's 'Right to Choose', if you're really that concerned.
49 posted on 10/02/2002 11:40:20 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy
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To: johnb838
I think you mean Clinton.
51 posted on 10/02/2002 11:44:42 AM PDT by Copperhead61
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To: johnb838
Are you a woman? A gyn/OB, perhaps? A nurse-midwife? Unless you have a functioning set of ovaries and a uterus or a professional education in same, you are simply bleating.

How many abortions have you experienced? How many pregnancies? How many births? How many have you attended professionally?

What do you know about a woman's reproductive health? Are you aware of the studies that show the more abortions prior to a live full term birth equals an increase in breast cancer? Or the ones that document that earlier childbirth equals healthier women and children? That children are healthier and happier and achieve better with a Mom around most of the time and a Dad who provides a strong male presence/role model? And this presupposes a 2-parent family capable of supporting and raising this child to a responsible adulthood. Did you have a 2-parent family?

Do you know or care that abortion weakens the cervix and makes subsequently carrying a child difficult, leading to increases in miscarriage when a woman wants children? Are you aware of the psycho-physiological effect on the body and the mind of being hormonally pregnant and then having that state precipitously reversed, either surgically or chemically?

Are you so selfish that only the sexual activity of young girls and women matters? That a resultant child is an inconvenience and has no advocate in the process? Do you think that society has a stake in future generations?

Please provide us with cites for your claim of what the President *wants*. AFAIK, the proposed program encourages marriage, which takes care of the *barefoot* part and, as others have told you, the rest is about responsibility. You might start with reading the proposals and then intelligently deconstructing them with points that actually have substance, instead of partisan scare-tactic talking points. That is how this is actually done in practice: there are commissions that study these proposals from a scientific and sound basis. There are hearings in committeee, where actual experts advise the legislators. It is educational work and everyone ought to try it. At the photo-ops, emotive partisans on all sides are invited to offer their anecdotes and the legislators all too often pander to the presumed constituents, but that is the froth of crafting policy decisions.

Not all processes and not all results are perfect and too many are guided by the self interest of those who need to be elected. Some are evil and some are benign, but adults need to examine the issue, not simply beat each other about the head w/slogans.

What you hear from your puppet masters are simply partisan talking points diluted down for the lowest common denominator's ability to remember and yell. They may sway others who have an ideological bias, but they simply have no depth. For those who lack the inculcated bias inherent in these throwaway lines, they are shallow, hollow and meaningless.

65 posted on 10/03/2002 7:08:50 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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