[Remole]

It is likely that Sen. Kennedy IS refering to the final 15 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" because he is alerting people to the danger and loss associated with urban fighting; and the final 15 (really, as I recall, 30) minutes of the movie occur in a city (no longer inhabited due to months of shelling).

I think his reference is accurate, but his analysis is still wrong. Yes, urban warfare will be hell (just ask the IDF's experience in Jenin), but that in itself is not an argument against invading Iraq.

[dfwgator]

Yes, urban warfare will be hell (just ask the IDF's experience in Jenin), but that in itself is not an argument against invading Iraq.

In 1945, once we entered Germany we encountered little resistance from the Germans (of course the Germans resisted the Russians, but that was because they knew what the Russians would do to them), I suspect once we rout Saddam's army by air, that we will encounter little resistance in Iraq.

[Flashlight]

...It is likely that Sen. Kennedy IS refering to the final 15 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" because he is alerting people to the danger and loss associated with urban fighting...

Thanks, I'd like to find a transcript so I can re-check the context the reference was given in.

I still think he really meant the first 15 minutes. The *first* 15 (or twenty) minutes is much better known than the *last*, and would be much more likely to be used as a reference in a popular speech. (Anyway, I'll check it out.)