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Schroeder victory hits German stocks (HOLD MEIN BIER ALERT)
BBC News ^ | September 23, 2002 | BBC News

Posted on 09/23/2002 4:44:32 AM PDT by MadIvan

Germany's stock market has tumbled following the election victory of Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Red-Green coalition.

Oh let's see, elect a government that is hostile to business, and what do you expect? The German electorate is being punished with a death by a thousand cuts, erm, stocks falling. ;) - Ivan

The Dax index of leading German shares fell 102 points to 2,963 by 1000 GMT.

Other major European markets rose.

Mr Schroeder's coalition's narrow victory depressed stock traders who have seen shares fall to their lowest levels in five years.

"This is an uncomfortable position for the stock market," said Johannes Reich, chief analyst at German private bank Bankhaus Metzler.

The result could also spell bad news for the euro.

Tee hee! Which makes it that much easier for us in the UK to avoid! - Ivan

"An inconclusive result is certainly the worst imaginable result for the euro," said Dorothea Huttanus, a foreign exchange analyst at DZ Bank.

Reform backlog

With all hopes of a Conservative-Liberal coalition delivering dramatic reforms, traders were concerned that a weak chancellor would find it hard to push through economic reforms.

Better a weak Red chancellor than one who'd force you to sing the Internationale. - Ivan

"It would have been better if one party had received a clear electoral mandate," said DekaBank economist Andreas Scheuerle.

"The reform backlog will continue."

Unemployment in Germany, Europe's largest economy, remains stubbornly high at around 10% and recession fears are strong.

"If we are looking for change in Europe, and change in Germany in particular, this result is disappointing," said CSFB chief European economist Julian Callow.

Weak investment

The election campaign did much to alienate foreign investors, analysts said.

"Not only have Schroeder's government failed to carry out the necessary reforms, they behaved like a bull in a china shop in the most recent dispute with the US government," said BDI industry association chief, Michael Rogowski.

Mr Rogowski referred to Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin's comparison of the policies of President George W Bush and Adolf Hitler.

"That will have an impact on the economy," Mr Rogowski said.

In addition, many investors would shy away from Germany, said Fred Irwin, vice-president for corporate clients at Citibank and president of the American Chamber of Commerce.

"Without [economic] reforms it will be more difficult to convince our companies to invest in Germany," he said.

Schroeder's commitment to postpone 7bn euros (£4.43bn; $6.89bn) in tax cuts to pay for recent flood damage would also burden economic growth because consumer spending would be held back, insisted the country's leading retailer, Metro.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fischer; germany; greens; schroeder; spd; stocks
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To: TonyRo76
Hope I don't seem too impertinent, but I'm already laughing...

Perhaps Britain and America should invite Mercedes, BMW and Volkswagen to move, and then say to the German government, "All your factory are now belong to us".

Regards, Ivan

23 posted on 09/23/2002 6:53:30 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
"There's a lot of ruin in a country."

This is Steven C. Den Beste's take at the USS Clueless:

And so, Schröder's party wins the German elections, after a rancorous campaign in which Schröder and his ally Fischer of the Greens faced a challenge from the right, and in order to win had to play every leftist card they had, including the Anti-American card. Over and over again.

In the course of that, their denunciations of the US became ever more loud and emphatic. At first they simply proclaimed their disagreement with American foreign policy (especially with regard to this or any other war), and said that Germany wouldn't participate in this or any other war. Then, raising the stakes, they claimed that they would try to prevent America from fighting in Iraq, with or without German troops. The next step was to begin to directly criticize President Bush, and it came to a head when the Justice Minister, Herta Daeubler-Gmelin, said a couple of days ago that Bush was trying to stir up a war in order to not have to answer to Americans for the problems of our economy, and that this was just the kind of thing that Hitler used to do.

At which point it hit the fan. Bush and his advisers had been seething anyway, and at that point they went rather public with their dissatisfaction. Schröder apologized.

Sort of. "We're sorry you got the idea from incorrect news reports that we'd compared you to Hitler." He apologized without admitting that anything had happened that should be apologized for, and tried to pretend. I don't think that was enough, and there has been very real damage to German-American relations.

There are rumors that Schröder said privately that once he'd won, he'd make it up to Washington. It's not that easy.

Read this article by Walter Russell Mead on Jacksonian America and Jacksonian American foreign policy. It's a long read, but well worth it.

24 posted on 09/23/2002 7:05:40 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: ch.man
"I fully agree with you. Now the little problem is: it probably will impact the economy of other countries, and these countries did not have a chance to vote."

Life isn't fair.

Does ch.man stand for Swiss man? Just curious.

25 posted on 09/23/2002 7:17:35 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: MadIvan
SCRUEM, we should have something like the Berlin airlift and drop cyanide tablets oin them. They can save the world by commiting mass suicide a lot faster.

We can then repopulate the region with better people.

26 posted on 09/23/2002 7:18:18 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: TonyRo76
Israel has proportional representation to the max, their entire country is a single electoral district and you only get to vote for a party. Result dozens of tiny parties and excruciating coalition wrangling, which makes government even more inefficient and corrupt than it normally is.

The problem here at the Federal congressional level is that 95% of the districts are re-districted into one party fiefdoms and there's no political competition. The districts ought to be designed to create competition.

27 posted on 09/23/2002 7:23:07 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: MadIvan
(HOLD MEIN BIER ALERT)

Hah! Nice touch Ivan.

28 posted on 09/23/2002 8:04:08 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: MadIvan
Anyone have any ideas on how much our soldiers' paychecks are propping up their economy?

It's time to seriously rethink this whole NATO thing.
29 posted on 09/23/2002 8:19:26 AM PDT by ConservativeNewsNetwork
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To: MadIvan
Are you sure that's not Benny Hill?
30 posted on 09/23/2002 9:41:02 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: ch.man
Now the little problem is: it probably will impact the economy of other countries, and these countries did not have a chance to vote.

But they COULD have spoke up!!! You reap what you sow, ya know?

31 posted on 09/23/2002 10:27:59 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: albee
More like an ugly Madeline Albright!

You mean there's some other kind?

32 posted on 09/23/2002 10:45:18 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: MadIvan
he should be dating Herr Albright.
34 posted on 09/23/2002 12:11:41 PM PDT by Gothmog
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To: MadIvan
The result could also spell bad news for the euro.

Tee hee! Which makes it that much easier for us in the UK to avoid! - Ivan

What are the chances of you folks dodging the Euro bullet these days Ivan? Losing the British Pound would not be a good thing for anyone.

35 posted on 09/23/2002 12:15:59 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: MadIvan
Schroeder's biography states he is a former Marxist, which is a synonym for a Communist in America's sphere of influence.

I really question whether he is a former anything, with the exception of his role as chancellor of a country that was formerly taken somewhat seriously, but which is now regarded universally as a joke.
36 posted on 09/23/2002 12:44:51 PM PDT by Man of the Right
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To: Snuffington
What are the chances of you folks dodging the Euro bullet these days Ivan? Losing the British Pound would not be a good thing for anyone.

With this mess, the odds for us Eurosceptics improved substantially. After all, why would we want to join in a currency which would permanently link us to that kind of fuss and bother? ;)

Regards, Ivan

37 posted on 09/23/2002 2:45:06 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Kermit
It's obvious from the treatment of Daeubler-Gmelin that Schroeder knew all along that she had made that statement. He lied in his non-apology letter to Bush, and claimed to believe her denials, because he did not want to repudiate her Hitler comparison before the election.
38 posted on 09/23/2002 2:53:43 PM PDT by aristeides
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