[VOA]

Bryan Clouse, for his part, never grew fond of San Francisco.
"Over the years, it started getting dirtier and stinkier. It wears on you," he said.

I know it's a matter of personal taste, but my one side-trip to San Francisco
left me underwhelmed.
Dirty streets, stumbling bums, with a few nice vistas as a backdrop.

I'm sure this qualifies me as a person without class, but I'd take Los Angeles any day over
the self-important atmosphere of San Francisco.

But I bet it was one cool place back in the middle of the 1800s...

[Chad Fairbanks]

Great, now these liberals will spread across the land, and begin the same destructive cycle over again in another place...

[vannrox]

Its true. Sadly.

Out here in Boston, it has been called the "Job Less Recovery". The companies that have laid off are not hiring. And, companies that actually need people to fill openings are also not hiring. It's that everything has been on hold. I can't speak for the other areas and markets, but Engineering is chilled.

There are positions in Civil Engineering related fields, especially HVAC. There are openings in the Medical device development fields - if you have 10 years experience. But that is it. You would think that the Military would cause a hiring surge of Engineering talent. But that has not been the case.

Consumer Products are hiring for entry level positions in the SE. IT management and deployment is flat.

I myself have been unemployed since march. There are many companies that I talk to, but they are all "Window shopping". I will have to leave Boston in the near future. My "cheap" one bedroom apartment of $800/month will be out of my reach in a mere month. Compare that to the average one bedroom apartment of cost $1300/month. -And that is with a 45 minute commute!

[watcher1]

misses the Bay Area's tolerance, openness and liberal political climate.

Poofta barf alert!

[Drango]

Yet the H1B program is thriving with thousands of foreign programmers coming into the country. Before anyone leaves, make sure you cast a ballot against the politicians that won't protect your job.

[tallhappy]

"The quality of life in the Bay Area has gone," Broner complained. "I've watched the whole thing go to hell in the last 20 years."

Yep. You'll notice he is from Oakland, not Michigan or Indiana.

It's because of goons like these guys who are moving back home.

There's an old bumper sticker -- welcome to California, now go home.

They are going to ruin Sacramento and Stockton etc... next.

The only good thing think I can say is maybe these two boys (36 and 45) will grow up now.

Moving to his grandparents house will probably make him grow up.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Well one has to eat. Go to Mexico or Asia all of our real jobs went to those locations.

[Chi-townChief]

No surprises here - We have worked hard on taxing and regulating our American manufacturing out of existence for the past 40 years.

[Temple Owl]

Fries with that?

[SauronOfMordor]

A day of reckoning will eventually come to SF, as its tax base leaves. There will be a point where the remaining taxpayers will be unable to support the welfare state

[kezekiel]

[yankeedame]

In a week, the 35-year-old programmer will load up a rented SUV and say goodbye to the city that has been his home for the past nine years. He will go to live with his grandparents in Brooklyn, Mich...

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Live with or sponge off of? I mean, holy cats, the guy is thirty-five years old and he's gonna travel across country to move in with grandma and grandpa?? Boy, I'd love to hear their side of this!

[Cicero]

It's now been two years since the technology sector began its long slide, triggering the worst economic slump to hit the Bay Area in memory.

Still defending clinton? As I recall, the NASDAQ began its long slide just about the time that clinton brought the antitrust suit against Microsoft. I can't seem to find a long-term NASDAQ chart, but I would have said it's more like three years.

[jmax]

"In a week, the 35-year-old programmer will load up a rented SUV ....."

SUV ??? SUV??? I thought all the liberals felt SUV's were a no-no, as they used too much precious gasoline, and were driven by only Recpublicans and Conservatives.

[Red Jones]

bump

[vikingchick]

Lots of for rent and for sale signs here in the East Bay.

[The FRugitive]

I can totally relate. I'm a computer programmer and have been unemployed since April.

I sold my house and am leaving at my sister's. My mortgage was about $1000, I'm paying my sister $300 including utilities and everything.

She wouldn't charge, but I insisted I'd pay something.

I've still got a $750 BMW payment though (I was young and stupid and makeing too much money when I bought it). Uh, this economy is so depressing.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

What a whiner get a job and stop whining

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Bottom line IMHO: America and capitalism are highly dynamic. Classic case in point is the fact that the supermarket has to completely reorganize its inventory display arrangement every few years because of the continual migration of the product mix they sell. A lot of that is just "New! New!" hype but some of it is actual product improvement. And when you look at the need for pharmaceutical developement to treat or prevent Alzheimers and so forth, conservatives can only think that further development is crucial.

The good news is that the dynamism built into the American system tends produce the new things we need. The bad news is that the self-same dynamism tends to cause the obsolescence of work-force skills. The typical position of unionism is that "this is a terrible place to have to work, and we want lots of people working here getting paid very well. The logical position of a union is slightly different:

"This is a terrible place to work and we want people to get jobs elsewhere. We don't want people to apply to work here, and we want the ones who are here to find better jobs and quit, leaving the rest with high-paying jobs."

But that, of course, would invoke an entrepreneurial spirit among the workforce--and unionism is anti-entrepreneurial at its core. Unionism preaches fear, making it a natural part of the Democratic Party.

[justsomedude]

i thought that 'this time it's different?'

The 'old economy' is dead. Long live the 'old economy.'