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1 posted on 09/21/2002 2:56:38 PM PDT by USA21
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Coppertone!
2 posted on 09/21/2002 2:57:58 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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Let me see, the musslimes use nukes so responsible countries should give them up? This of course brings things down to a battle of the womb which the musslimes win! Glad we pay for LL and its' band of "geniuses".
3 posted on 09/21/2002 3:02:57 PM PDT by Righty1
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MAD indeed will not work with people who wish to be martyrs, or those that are crazy enough for power to gas his own people.

Iraq's Saddam should not be allowed Nuclear weapons or WMD's of any sort. He is not afraid to become a martyr, or his country dying with him. Therefore they must be removed from his possession in any way shape or form necassary.

He is a worldwide threat, not just a US problem.
4 posted on 09/21/2002 3:09:14 PM PDT by Aric2000
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"The consequence will be worldwide horror that
will result in less reliance on nuclear weapons,"

Not really.  We get blasé about everything,
in an ever shortening time frame.  And the
success of the coming nuclear strike will
only result in more states wanting the capability.

5 posted on 09/21/2002 3:12:24 PM PDT by gcruse
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"Nuclear is not off the radar screen, and as long as people keep it on the screen I think there's a very good chance one will never be exploded in anger."

Nice thought, but history has a way of making all the wrong things happen at the wrong time. All it takes is one nut and a button to push.
6 posted on 09/21/2002 3:22:01 PM PDT by itzmygun
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One consequence is that it will cause people to become more serious about control

The only serious control is to return the looney islamic world to the Dark Ages: No modern convieniences, no electricity, no industry, no roads, no cars, no trucks, no planes, no guns, no modern tools, no running water, no schools, no books, except the Quran. Return them to their nomadic roots: Camels, frankinsense, and the oasis. Same with the Chinese if they decide to get froggy with us. And with Europe. And anyone else who wants to challenge American supremacy. We WILL get to the stars and realize mankind's destiny, whether the rest of the world wants to do it or not.

8 posted on 09/21/2002 3:29:51 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Clearly a meeting of the National Labs to plan how to squeeze more budget out of the US Taxpayer. By throwing the "nuclear device" tent over fusion bombs (~100 Kiloton to ~10 Megaton), fission bombs (~5 Kiloton to ~200 Kiloton) and radiological dispersion devices (not much bang at all and dispersion over a several square mile area), they can elevate the risk to 100% in the next decade. But note that the biggest device is about 10,000,000 times the smallest device, and it would do at least 1000 times as much damage. Single devices at the upper end of the range would completely destroy major metro areas for several 10s of miles in radius from ground zero. It is very unlikely that terrorist would use devices in the upper few orders of magnitude in destructiveness.
11 posted on 09/21/2002 4:00:55 PM PDT by Lessismore
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I don't think this took a rocket scientist nor a nuclear scientist to figure out.
12 posted on 09/21/2002 4:05:04 PM PDT by Quix
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Back to the drawing board. PEople, we are facing the same spear wielding and throwing savages, except now, in the name of anti-colonization, we let them have nuke tipped spears. The result is that it is in fact them who are now colonising us with their spear throwing methods as Clinton et al was all too happy to play Lion King of the Pride Rock throwing tomahawks around like they were darts for Play Boy magazine contest.

We have to go there, take over these bastards, and show them what true civilized war and peace is like. Drive a stake through these "civilizations".
13 posted on 09/21/2002 4:07:42 PM PDT by lavaroise
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Why are screwing around with those people?
14 posted on 09/21/2002 4:08:18 PM PDT by oyez
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"and a futurist"

I wanna be a futurist...wait...what the hell is a futurist? Almost as worthless as being a secretary of defense under Clinton, no doubt.

"If an attack were to occur, said Sandia National Laboratories president C. Paul Robinson, it would signify a failure by defense and weapons leaders. "

That is complete and utter speculation, like 95% of the quotes in this article. Unless a mistake is actively made, it is quite possible that an attack could take place and it would not be reasonable to blame "leaders" because there is only so much preemption and security that can exist.

Of course there is a danger of a nuclear strike. I don't think there is a real danger of Nuclear WAR tho, and I don't think aimless speculation chockfull of maybes and whatifs is all that fruitful.
15 posted on 09/21/2002 4:14:01 PM PDT by Lizard_King
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"The consequence will be worldwide horror that will result in less reliance on nuclear weapons," suggested former National Security Council senior director Jane Wales, president of the World Affairs Council in San Francisco.

Bullshit. (This is not profanity -- it's an accurate description.)

Terrorists are not interested in control. They are interested in horror.

Pakistan is not interested in control. Pakistan is interested in not getting conquered by India.

India is not interested in control. India is interested in responding to Pakistan, and in not getting conquered by China.

China wants to threaten its neighbors, and to use its nuclear arsenal as a backstop to prevent us or Russia from intervening.

And on and on and on.....

These people think everybody will play nice because the alternative is so bad. Everybody thought the same thing after the First World War, too.

30 posted on 09/21/2002 4:48:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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TV Weather 100, IRAQ forecast:


32 posted on 09/21/2002 4:56:42 PM PDT by jws3sticks
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I'm far more concerned, and think it far more likely, that there will be a biological attack. It's anonymous, will take a few hours (at least) to know there's a problem, any one trouble maker can be super lethal and, if he times it right, he can create a response against someone else. If, for example, Israel suffered a biological attack tomorrow Iraq would stand a good chance of becoming a cinder - even if the Iraqis had nothing to do with it.
34 posted on 09/21/2002 6:46:27 PM PDT by caltrop
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A repeat test on my jpg, which was ok initially but got smaller after the posting and I don't know why.


36 posted on 09/21/2002 7:01:18 PM PDT by jws3sticks
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"The consequence will be worldwide horror that will result in less reliance on nuclear weapons," suggested former National Security Council senior director Jane Wales, president of the World Affairs Council in San Francisco.

The tactical mobile laser weapons of the future are within a decade of deployment.

Remember all the reports of delta-wing UFOs in the 1970s.
Turned out to be stealth testing.

You won't believe what's in the pipeline now.

As Reagan used to say.....make nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete....it's coming.........

39 posted on 09/21/2002 8:18:01 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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"Of course, one measurement of failure is to apply mutually assured destruction to someone who believes in martyrdom," he said.

Good writing. Summarise the entire article in one tight statement.

46 posted on 09/21/2002 9:42:24 PM PDT by AgentEcho
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Security experts who say stuff like "Such and such is inevitable" should be fired and replaced by people who are willing to put up a defense. People who say "X is inevitable" are the same kind of people who don't bother protecting the border, don't collect intelligence, don't enforce immigration laws and aren't careful about issuing visas. They are dangerous and should be removed.
56 posted on 09/22/2002 7:45:38 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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Power Rules! It always has and always will...and that's the truth............! Use it or lose it!
57 posted on 09/22/2002 7:46:48 AM PDT by Don Corleone
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Sadam is going to lay a hot one somewhere on the oil fields
and our government knows it.
78 posted on 10/19/2002 1:42:23 PM PDT by jetson
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