Klein lashes out at Chrétien (Kyoto threatening Tar Sands development)

Canadian Press via Globe and Mail (Toronto) ^ | September 19, 2002

[Clive]

The Tar Sands hold 5 times the oil reserves of Saudia Arabia.

[Clive]

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[ReaganIsRight]

Kyoto is flawed "science", I can make a simulation come out to any result I want, especially when you can hide details in subfiles and name these the same as a "valid" subroutine.

These global warming bozos are todays version of the snake oil salesman.

[NatureGirl]

Let's see - stop work in the Tar Sands, have all of Ontario's coal-fired generating stations off-line by 2015...

Are the leaders in this country stupid or what?? Where are we going to get our energy from? To put it bluntly, whose butt are we going to have to kiss to meet our energy needs? And how much will it cost?

[marron]

All of the scientists in the world agree that global warming is our greatest threat, and the Kyoto treaty is our only salvation.

All the scientists, that is, except for the ones who actually study this stuff.

The Canadians are going to shaft themselves for the sake of bogus science, and make fun of us for listening to the specialists who actually have a clue.

And Chretien thinks Bush is dumb. Hard to keep from laughing, eh?

[thinktwice]

Al Gore ... Any doubts on his Kyoto position?

[thinktwice]

the South separated from the North because of tariffs.

That's news to me. Seven Southern states seceded within weeks after Lincoln was elected -- over his position on slavery.

[marron]

Al Gore ... Any doubts on his Kyoto position?

Al Gore is a Canadian spy.

[GaryMontana]

I have a great idea. Have Alberta, British Columbia and any other Province JOIN the USA!

Lower taxes, you don't have to wait 2 years to see a doctor, and we will not sign a junk science document. We still have a military that can defend the USA (Canada's military force is down to 55,000 personal).
Alberta would be a welcome addition to the USA!

[thinktwice]

That was a side factor, miniscule in comparison to the taxes the North was levying.

Seven states seceding from the Union was a "miniscule" factor in the Civil War? Miniscule, when compared to taxes imposed by the North?

Tell us more about those taxes!

[thinktwice]

the slavery issue was miniscule compared to the tax issue in leading to secession.

Provide facts, or fade away; one or the other.

[thinktwice]

Somebody has been stuffing revisionist history into your receptive skull.

People using common sense know that the abolition of slavery -- Lincoln's platform -- was the primary cause of the Civil War.

[thinktwice]

You don't seem to realize that the continuation of slavery meant everything to the economy in Southern states.

Do you think soldiers from either North or South went into battle -- ready to die -- thinking it was about the moral case surrounding tariffs?

[JamesWilson]

People using common sense know that the abolition of slavery -- Lincoln's platform -- was the primary cause of the Civil War.

Then why was the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 - 2 years after the Civil War began?