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Canada's Military Said to be on 'Verge of Collapse'
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 9/18/02 | Alison Appelbe

Posted on 09/18/2002 3:46:29 AM PDT by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Canada's military is on the verge of collapse, according to a recent report released by a coalition of prominent Canadians concerned about security and defense.

The 39-page report from the Council for Canadian Security (CCS) in the 21st Century warns that the country is at risk of being unable to defend its territory, including the world's longest coastline and second-largest land mass and becoming increasingly reliant on the capabilities of the United States.

"Canadian forces are in a crisis-literally on the verge of collapse," military historian and council chairman Jack Granatstein told the media on the release of the report. "To rectify the situation, the Canadian forces need more. More of everything."

Since the 1950s, Canada has reduced its defense spending to just over one per cent of its gross domestic product, placing it 17th among 19 NATO-member countries. From a peak fighting force of 120,000 four decades ago, the country is now reduced to 60,000 members in uniform. Its military equipment-from naval frigates and Arctic icebreakers to military helicopters and transport planes-is widely seen as outdated and insufficient.

Timed for release on the eve of Sept. 11 commemorative events, the report, titled 'The Peoples' Defense Review," calls for an immediate infusion of $1.5 billion Canadian ($950 million U.S.) into Canada's $12 billion military budget, and stepped up co-operation with American forces to improve continental security.

"Nine-eleven indicates the nature of the threat, and the U.S. has reacted by bolstering homeland defense," the report says. "If Canada fails to make equivalent efforts, it will be an easier target. Moreover, given the interconnections in the continent's infrastructure, a major attack on the U.S. will have serious effects in Canada."

On the politically sensitive issue of Canadian sovereignty, the report adds that any decision to allow the U.S. greater responsibility for protecting Canada "would de-facto cede Canadian sovereignty to the U.S."

In a subsequent telephone interview, Granatstein said Canada has historically shunted its military during peacetime.

"In war we have built up forces that become very good and effective, but as soon as the war is over we start throwing it away and we get into a cycle of forgetfulness in which we demolish what has been a very effective military," Granatstein said.

He added that a "cheap" and "rather sad" anti-Americanism, always present in Canada, has reached a "shrill" level since four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan in April in a friendly fire incident involving American pilots. At the same time, he warned that Americans look upon Canada as "a freeloader nation-a people that prattles about sovereignty and offers nothing but anti-American rhetoric."

Last week, the National Post newspaper and Global television network released a poll that showed 79 per cent of Canadians believe their nation would need American help in the case of an attack yet only 52 per cent support more government spending on the military.

Paul Cellucci, the U.S. ambassador to Canada, is among those who argue that a lack of military strength is the greatest threat to Canadian sovereignty. Cellucci is also a strong proponent of greater integration of continental forces.

"Why would we not co-operate ... it makes no sense not to," he told the media on the eve of Sept. 11 this year. "It's not about sovereignty. It's about security. There is a much greater threat to Canadian sovereignty by not giving the military what it needs to do its job than by allowing the military to continue to cooperate with the United States."

Cellucci has also stated that a lack of Canadian spending on its military is of concern at the highest levels of the Bush administration. Yet Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien has repeatedly said he has no plan to spend more and Defense Minister John McCallum said the CCS report would only become "part of the ongoing defense policy review."

Ironically, Parliament's most left-leaning party, the New Democrats, also criticize the Chretien government for neglecting the military. The NDP is concerned about poor salaries, benefits and living conditions for armed services personnel.

A director of the Centre for Military and Strategic Studies at the University of Calgary argued that the Canadian government is ignoring popular views.

"Since Sept. 11 (2001), all of the polls have shown that the Canadian public has been unified on a need for increased military spending," said Rob Huebert. "But we have a government that simply refuses to give the opinions of Canadians any adherence. You get the sense they are just waiting, crossing their fingers that there are no further strikes, and hoping they can go back to business as usual, which is, of course, a very ill-conceived attitude."

Granatstein attributes the lack of military spending, in part, to a culture in which the armed forces are not well profiled or highly valued in mainstream culture.

"Canadians don't know much about their military, and they don't know how weak it is," he said. "On the other hand, they think of themselves as being the best friend of the U.S. They don't seem to see that being as weak as we are, we are losing sovereignty, and that the Americans will make the decisions whether we like it or not."

 

 





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1 posted on 09/18/2002 3:46:29 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Canada has a military??
2 posted on 09/18/2002 3:48:36 AM PDT by PaulJ
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To: PaulJ
They're spending US$7.6 billion on defense? Where? On what?
3 posted on 09/18/2002 3:53:09 AM PDT by LenS
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To: PaulJ
Yes, Canada has a military, and sometimes it seems like the army is all in the Balkans, and the navy is all near Afghanistan.
4 posted on 09/18/2002 3:57:16 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: kattracks
Not a penny to help them, nor a drop of American blood shed to defend them, until Canada allows its people to keep and bear arms. That alone would go a long way toward allowing Canada to defend herself -- as long as they all haven't been dumbed down into not much more than surrender monkeys during the last 50 years.
5 posted on 09/18/2002 3:57:38 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: kattracks
Did the canoe capsize?
6 posted on 09/18/2002 3:58:04 AM PDT by Happygal
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To: PaulJ
Cool! OK, They got oil, lumber, great fishing, great hunting and an angry rural population. I say we annex 'em and make a 51st. State!! Let's roll!
7 posted on 09/18/2002 3:58:11 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: bullseye1911
Bad idea. I don't think we want Ontario, Quebec, or the Maritimes. Too socialist. We'll take the rest.
8 posted on 09/18/2002 4:01:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: Happygal; kattracks

<< Did the canoe capsize? >>

One time I was up there, eh -- and saw their airplane outside its hanger!

Eh?
9 posted on 09/18/2002 4:01:39 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: kattracks
Can you spell "A-N-N-E-X-A-T-I-O-N"? But let it not apply to Quebec.
10 posted on 09/18/2002 4:02:36 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Brian Allen
I guess I can't laugh...the Irish Navy has one boat between them. We call them all dry land sailors. The Sea Scouts have more military experience *LOL*
To think we exported Commadore John Barry to the US! :-)
11 posted on 09/18/2002 4:05:14 AM PDT by Happygal
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To: kattracks
Our Canadian neighbors are indeed in a "pickle"! They've secretly asked the US for assistance and been quietly but firmly rebuffed. . . something about, ". . . if you can't help yourselves, don't look to us (US) to do it. . .".

So...the gov'mt of Canada began to search for a willing "partner" to offer assistance at an affordable price.

The good news is: they found one!

The bad news is: France said all Canada's military really needs is full instructions (one side of a three x five file card) on how to surrender!!

"We give up!"
12 posted on 09/18/2002 4:05:47 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason
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To: kattracks
What sort of agreements do the Canadians have with the English? Do they share some costs in defending/patrolling the north Atlantic and Artic Ocean?

Does England have any influence over these canucks at all?
13 posted on 09/18/2002 4:11:15 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: kattracks
He added that a "cheap" and "rather sad" anti-Americanism, always present in Canada,

Yes,84% of these people think we bought 911 on ourselves
They are not our friends

14 posted on 09/18/2002 4:12:26 AM PDT by watcher1
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To: Brian Allen
My father was a Canadian citizen who joined the US Navy during WWII. I asked him why he didn't join the Canadian Army. His response was, that would be like committing suicide. I didn't entirely understand what he meant until I read the mortality rate of the Canadian forces. It was the highest of any allied army in WWII.
15 posted on 09/18/2002 4:14:04 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: PaulJ
Canada is a country?
16 posted on 09/18/2002 4:15:01 AM PDT by RWG
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To: RWG
I don't even know what street Canada is on.
17 posted on 09/18/2002 4:15:26 AM PDT by Wormwood
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To: wallcrawlr
What sort of agreements do the Canadians have with the English?

It's a very subservient, submissive one.
canada gets on it's knees and licks it's masters boots

18 posted on 09/18/2002 4:17:09 AM PDT by watcher1
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To: Wormwood
I thought it was a suburb of Detroit...
19 posted on 09/18/2002 4:22:19 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: kattracks
Last week, the National Post newspaper and Global television network released a poll that showed 79 per cent of Canadians believe their nation would need American help in the case of an attack yet only 52 per cent support more government spending on the military.

That's because despite the adolescent satisfaction they get by sniping at the U.S. they know that we would never let anything happen to them. Its sort of like a teenager showing how rebellious he is by mouthing off about the police while secretly he knows that there is no real danger of the police retaliating and knows that they are obligated to assist him if he needs it.

20 posted on 09/18/2002 4:23:17 AM PDT by MichiganMan
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