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To: windchime
Yes, of course there are the sign-in logs. Who has custody of those books? That could prove who voted that day at the very least. The people who got turned away never reached the sign-in books or did they? IS THE TURNING AWAY UNTRUE? Once you're signed in, you get to vote?

What you can't measure is if Janet finds people who alleged they were turned away BEFORE they could sign in. Those could be votes that Janet could try to mine before Tuesday. Even if they were at home on their couches all day Tuesday. You see what I'm saying?

136 posted on 09/15/2002 2:18:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
Who has custody of those books?===the chief clerk in each precinct returns them with the machine tabulations election night to the Supervisor of Elections.

The people who got turned away never reached the sign-in books or did they?=== They did not- polls were locked up, empty.

IS THE TURNING AWAY UNTRUE?=== It is true- documented by election monitors from Justice Dept, State elections, and media. It was serious enough for the Governor to order the polls open 2 extra hours statewide.(Which was a 14th Amendment thing- not because there were problems statewide)

Once you're signed in, you get to vote?=== YUP!

What you can't measure is if Janet finds people who alleged they were turned away BEFORE they could sign in.=== These are the "disenfranchised" people- and this time, it's the real deal. Something like 41% of the precincts in Dade were not open at 7am) They won't be counted for this final count certification ongoing now, and final by 5pm Tuesday, but could appear in court if Janet decides to contest the result in court.

If so, (and she says she won't do this)- a judge COULD order a revote in their race. Maybe statewide, maybe just in the screwed up counties. Judges have a lot of latitude. My guess is, it will depend on how many sofa voters swear under oath they were turned away, and how many votes that were not counted initially are found when they recheck the machines.

If the judge is convinced the problems were of such a magnitude, that the results cannot be accepted, it could happen----thanks to the incompetance of 2 Election Supervisors.
140 posted on 09/15/2002 2:51:04 PM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: floriduh voter
The registers are in the custody of the poll workers/inspectors and Clerk for the respective precinct. They are delivered to Election Headquarters by the precinct Clerk, so then would be in the custody of the Supervisor of Elections.

The voter, upon entering the precinct, is directed to the "inspector" with a register containing all the registered voters in that precinct. The "inspector" then asks for their current Florida Drivers License (locates name on register), asks them to state their name and current address, asks them to sign above their name in the register and initials verification of signature. The voter is then presented a slip indicating that preceding procedures are complete and the party affiliation for which the voting card should be activated. The voter presents the slip to the voting card "activator" and then continues to the voting machine. Entire process from door to voting machine is about 2-3 minutes max unless there's an address/name change or some other exception.

In cases where the voter was "turned away", it is possible the voter reached the sign-in books and maybe wasn't in the register or encountered a problem that would entail more paper work and chose not to follow through.

If the register was signed, they more than likely cast a vote. Although, in those counties a lot could happen in the ten steps between the activator and the voting machines!

Calculating the "before sign-in turned away voter" with any accuracy sounds impossible to me.
153 posted on 09/15/2002 7:18:29 PM PDT by windchime
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