FLORIDA REPUBLICAN VOTER COMMENT THREAD (Vanity)

Sept. 12, 2002

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Florida Republicans, share your election day stories with the army of journalists covering the "plague" of Fla. election problems. Let visiting pundits know what Florida Republicans have to say about this latest attempt to blame Dem. incompetence and fraud on our Governor and Republicans.

They wouldn't knowingly choose to disenfranchise Florida Republicans, thus mischaracterizing last Tuesday's Florida state primary election, would they?

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Check out Ms. Reno's 3 "problem" counties compared to the Reno-McBride votes in other Fla. counties...a few more hours and she may have pulled it off(?):

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/enight.asp Link

Florida Department of State
Division of Elections
September 10, 2002 Primary Election
Democratic Primary

UNOFFICIAL ELECTION NIGHT RETURNS
(may not include absentee or provisional ballots)

Governor and Lieutenant Governor
County	% Report	Daryl L. Jones / Not Yet Designated	Bill McBride / Not Yet Designated	Janet Reno / Not Yet Designated
Alachua	100.0%	2,119	16,453	7,789
Baker	100.0%	591	2,195	776
Bay	100.0%	2,509	8,725	3,510
Bradford	100.0%	608	2,191	1,040
Brevard	100.0%	4,420	17,290	14,546
Broward	100.0%	11,554	42,621	96,551
Calhoun	100.0%	577	2,032	488
Charlotte	100.0%	688	5,352	3,709
Citrus	100.0%	978	6,619	4,361
Clay	100.0%	871	3,072	2,319
Collier	100.0%	1,040	4,577	3,315
Columbia	100.0%	1,274	5,009	1,990
Desoto	100.0%	409	1,714	948
Dixie	100.0%	271	1,869	486
Duval	100.0%	16,942	28,110	29,177
Escambia	100.0%	3,611	13,089	6,541
Flagler	100.0%	856	3,317	3,033
Franklin	100.0%	221	1,633	567
Gadsden	100.0%	1,617	4,852	3,425
Gilchrist	100.0%	329	1,742	517
Glades	100.0%	225	794	555
Gulf	100.0%	584	2,236	670
Hamilton	100.0%	319	1,424	592
Hardee	100.0%	564	1,798	576
Hendry	100.0%	357	1,235	869
Hernando	100.0%	1,132	6,337	5,075
Highlands	100.0%	1,067	2,786	1,941
Hillsborough	100.0%	11,835	45,964	24,791
Holmes	100.0%	505	2,729	555
Indian River	100.0%	995	2,790	3,415
Jackson	100.0%	1,786	4,975	1,471
Jefferson	100.0%	573	2,399	871
Lafayette	100.0%	211	1,286	317
Lake	100.0%	1,314	9,023	4,333
Lee	100.0%	2,055	11,538	9,507
Leon	100.0%	4,662	24,729	10,986
Levy	100.0%	550	3,708	1,173
Liberty	100.0%	266	1,460	374
Madison	100.0%	558	2,038	916
Manatee	100.0%	1,925	10,281	7,490
Marion	100.0%	2,839	10,817	11,067
Martin	100.0%	723	3,045	4,537
Miami-Dade	100.0%	13,676	31,340	108,541
Monroe	100.0%	672	1,989	4,004
Nassau	100.0%	866	2,686	1,771
Okaloosa	100.0%	1,062	4,910	2,047
Okeechobee	100.0%	617	2,399	1,448
Orange	100.0%	8,342	33,640	22,889
Osceola	100.0%	1,165	4,967	3,385
Palm Beach	100.0%	7,931	35,624	64,445
Pasco	100.0%	2,788	15,615	11,069
Pinellas	100.0%	6,743	40,214	30,349
Polk	100.0%	7,474	20,575	11,863
Putnam	100.0%	1,488	5,197	3,436
Santa Rosa	100.0%	799	4,945	1,510
Sarasota	100.0%	1,937	11,269	9,760
Seminole	100.0%	2,123	10,537	5,277
St. Johns	100.0%	1,355	5,039	3,703
St. Lucie	100.0%	2,350	6,575	8,409
Sumter	100.0%	661	3,123	1,403
Suwannee	100.0%	698	2,931	1,336
Taylor	100.0%	464	2,085	757
Union	100.0%	215	1,486	453
Volusia	100.0%	4,532	19,352	14,858
Wakulla	100.0%	468	3,121	1,152
Walton	100.0%	717	3,167	1,197
Washington	100.0%	685	2,368	581
Total		156,358	601,008	592,812
Percent		11.6%	44.5%	43.9%

[ErnBatavia]

You don't get it; Freep a little more and you'll see what I'm talking about. BTW, there's another potentially series thing taking place in South Florida today.

Grammar sucking regards, Bat

[floriduh voter]

Reno lost MORNING HOURS in Broward where they opened late as well as EVENING extended hours when poll workers left two hours early.

Somewhere, they packed up and abandoned an 80 something year old poll worker with all the stuff. He took the ballots home and I think grocery shopping. At least he had custody of them when the other poll workers booked. Had he left the ballots at the polling place, minions would have possibly confiscated and thrown away those ballots. Rush Limbaugh talked about this on Thursday I think. JANET RENO GOT SQUEEZED OUT IN THE AM AND IN THE PM.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

I think she should sue. (^:

Broward County's SOE needs to be fired. Check out the Broward FR threads. Alcee Hastings actually dares Jeb to fire Ms. Oliphant, the Broward SOE who put together that GOP-smear instruction video and "supervised" last Tuesday's primary. Ms. Oliphant's African American. Rep. Hastings and Ms. Oliphant along with the DNC and their crime arm..the Fla. NAACP believe that they can once again cry "RACISM!" Florida's black Republicans are getting really tired of the lies from our racist Dem. neighbors.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Please tell the Dems/press about your voting experience.

Freeper comments from summer's thread: Urgent letter from Janet Reno Election Day Voting Problems (w/ voter complaint form (^:).

Did none of these people participate in the process of learning how to use the new voting machines? In my Florida county we had publicity about the new voting machines almost a year ago. Then the election officials took them to public places such as libraries, where people could check them out and ask questions. Plus, we had a one issue vote in March on a school levy (which passed unfortunately!), so people had the opportunity to try out the machines in a trial run so to speak.

So what happened? Did other counties not do the publicity and the education? Or were the voters not interested until Election Day?

14 posted on 9/12/02 9:20 PM Eastern by sunshine state

I am completely on Reno's side . I think there should be numerous court appeals and lawsuits and re-counts and let Broward County and Dade and Palm vote several more times until they can get it right. Janet Reno as AG always ruled this was the American way and it is only fair to give her the same privileges. Neighboring states should also lend Florida buses to haul the illegal Haitians and Jessee Jackson's folks to the numerous precincts without undue waiting to vote at each stop. Only in this way can Janet be rewarded as the minority becomes the majority as she always insisted. It is her right and just due.

32 posted on 9/12/02 9:42 PM Eastern by chemainus

Other know it's a lie. Mike Griffin, an editor of the Orlando Sentinel, just said on Hardball that So FL Election Supervisors are the "greatest threat to democracy" - and as Chris Matthews tried to pin it all on Gov Bush, Griffin said: "No, the blame lies with the DEM ELECTION SUPERVISORS." So, those who know what is going on already know who won this fight (Gov Bush, for spending $30 million to upgrade the FL voting system). And, who are the LOSERS (the supervisors who didn't teach the 70 year old volunteer poll workers how to turn on the machines in Miami and Lauderdale).

38 posted on 9/12/02 9:54 PM Eastern by summer

And why does this only happen in Dem counties in FL, where elections are run by Dem Election Supervisors, and the voters are mostly Dem? Gov Bush was right to ask what they heck is going on with Dem voters in FL...

46 posted on 9/12/02 10:01 PM Eastern by summer

My Dear Ms. Reno,

If I am so stupid that I couldn't figure out how to vote, how in the hell do you think I am smart enough to fill out your form?

Yours truly

Chad (Dimples) Ballot

37 posted on 9/12/02 6:30 PM Eastern by lawdude

My favorite story from Miami today was the old gomer who didn't ask for a demo- insisted on struggling through without help. Said he got confused on the screen to "review his votes" erased everything, and and then left without casting a vote, because he was too tired to keep going.
When asked why he didn't ask for help- he said his ballot was supposed to be SECRET- so he wouldn't show it to anybody.
Better NO vote than violate the secrecy.....only in Miami.

61 posted on 9/12/02 6:48 PM Eastern by Goldwater Girl

This is just simply too hard to believe. I am a Palm Beach County voter and the "butterfly ballot" was a bunch of BS and here we go again!

69 posted on 9/12/02 6:52 PM Eastern by Seeking the truth

The FL Democrats can't run an election!-- and they want to run the state?

97 posted on 9/12/02 7:25 PM Eastern by lonestar

 

[floriduh voter]

See post 40 something re: Alcee Hastings. Can't remember the number. Fregards. FV

[surely_you_jest]

My wife and I voted in Sarasota. We produced identification, signed in, voted and left. In under five minutes. Several other people were also voting. No signs of any difficulty whatsoever.

[peteram]

Local news had a clip this morning of an irate Reno ranting about how Bush is responsible for the problems in S. Florida. She was saying something to the effect that he had two years (since the 2000 elections) to fix the problems and they have not been fixed - that he did nothing!.

Forget the fact that he authorized some 3.5 million dollars to be spent on upgrading the systems. Many counties got the new touch screen systems.

So, she's decided to start the Dimocrap spin and make this an election issue by trying to blame him for the problems. I hope that most Floridians will see through this ploy. It was truly a disgusting display.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Please share your primary stories with the learning impaired on the left.

Freeper comments from Florida Vote Goes from Chad to Worse, posted by MeeknMing.

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In Miami-Dade, nearly half of the ballots that were still uncounted Wednesday were cast by black voters.

are the ballots stamped with the voter's race??

9 posted on 9/12/02 7:00 AM Eastern by TxBec

The problem is not the machines, it's the people using them.

19 posted on 9/12/02 7:31 AM Eastern by Lil'freeper

The Sun Sentinel adds this:-

U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Miramar, said nothing Oliphant is accused of rises to the level of misdeeds he thinks were committed by former Secretary of State Katherine Harris in the 2000 election. He said Bush would face the wrath of black voters in the November election if he removes Oliphant.

"I dare the governor to remove her," Hastings said. "He'll create a firestorm that will eclipse the one he created in the One Florida plan. He'll need Katherine Harris to count the votes for him again."

Racism at it's worst.

26 posted on 9/12/02 8:20 AM Eastern by ijcr

Oliphant compounded her problems by firing all experience workers and hiring all her cronies.

Perhaps the secretary of state needs to send supervisors for the surpervisors. Video cameras to tape constantly the whereabouts of the voting machines.

30 posted on 9/12/02 9:14 AM Eastern by Greeklawyer

And good old Alcee knows about misdeeds-remember, he's an impeached federal judge.

31 posted on 9/12/02 9:19 AM Eastern by 91B

BREAKING: 7:00 pm Thursday - MCBRIDE just gave his acceptance speech on only one local Tampa Bay station wtvt Fox Ch. 13....

41 posted on 9/12/02 8:40 PM Eastern by floriduh voter

This is interesting that he decided to give an acceptance speech before Reno concedes. His campaign previously announced he would not do that, and would first wait for Reno's concession speech. So much for that idea, I guess.

42 posted on 9/12/02 8:51 PM Eastern by summer

Hey, has anyone noticed that the three districts that seem to have the voting problems (Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward) are the SAME three districts that had the problem in the Presidential election?

Looks to me like no matter HOW they try, no matter what stunts the Dems pull, people keep voting Republican, dag nabbit...

49 posted on 9/12/02 9:44 PM Eastern by DGallandro

Reno blamed Bush for "abdicating" his responsibilities in the voting precincts debacle, hoping, I suppose, that viewers are too stupid to realize that Jeb has nothing to do with running the polls in Democratic Party controlled Miami-Dade and Broward counties.

TV reporter Michael Putney set the record straight immediately, however. He said Florida's Secretary of State offered to help to Leahy (Miami-Dade Supervisor of Elections), and Oliphant (Broward Supervisor of Elections) last week and was told that no help was needed.

50 posted on 9/12/02 10:39 PM Eastern by beckett 

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Thanks for the info, peteram. She's shameless.

Democrats are bad for the neighborhood. A few rotten crooks are ruining the reputation of the good people of the state of Florida. Florida Republicans have a case...as soon as we have a voice in the courts...the Dems. are in trouble.(^:

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Check out #49, the ijcr's post re. Hastings. Ooh...that makes me mad all over again. False accusations of "racism" are as serious as false accusations of rape, imho. People DIE because of this lie - riots and wars have been started, reputations ruined, it spreads the cancer of hate and envy throughout our society...and makes us all a smaller people.

[MassExodus]

[swampman]

It was smooth as silk for me in Pinellas.

"It's not what you don't know that will hurt you, it's what you don't know that you don't know"

[windchime]

I highly recommend it! One of the reasons I volunteered is to be able to see the process from the inside. The clerk in charge of the precinct needs to be highly competent, though. Good organization and preparation is absolutely essential!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

"Sorelosereno"

2 posted on 9/12/02 6:15 PM Eastern by Jim Robinson

(^:

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

The clerk in charge of the precinct needs to be highly competent, though. Good organization and preparation is absolutely essential!

It isn't enough simply to give the job to a buddy or relative or party $$$ donor? Someone should tell the DNC-press.(^:

[Brush_Your_Teeth]

When I went to vote at my precient, there was a democrat that was running for the schoolboard standing outside the door. As I got nearer to the entrance, I saw that there was a sign taped to the building which read,"Help stop vote fraud".

Its not fun to pick on low level democrat. It is better to catch the big fish senators and congress men with your zingers. :)

[Goldwater Girl]

I didn't take offense at anything you said- no need to apologise. I'm just tired of hearing the sneering liberal media talk about the "elderly" population that get so confused at the polls.
Southwest Florida has one of the greatest concentrations of "senior citizens" in the country- but we manage to man the polls and vote without problems. How can that be? We're mostly REPUBLICANS- who take our civic duty seriously.
On the problem coast- the Democrats have elevated whining to an art form. Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault.
Hogwash! (I cleaned that up for you kids on the forum.)

[RightOnline]

"Democrats will always have problems with elections because they are instructed to look for problems."

You're far too kind and diplomatic, darlin'.

Democrats will always have problems with elections because they tend to yer lower IQ stratum. IOW, the average Democratic voter has the approximate IQ of an asparagus.

By the way, I'm not being sarcastic in the least.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

On the problem coast- the Democrats have elevated whining to an art form. Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault.

Democrats will always have problems with elections because they tend to yer lower IQ stratum. IOW, the average Democratic voter has the approximate IQ of an asparagus.

Lol! I mailed this thread to 50 or so news-media outlets tonight. Before Nov. we may succeed in reminding a few press people that every vote counts, and the will of the people includes Republicans. Or, they'll be faced with the frightening Republican "loafer mob"...those wise, clean-cut voters who see right thru their Barbra Streisand. (^: