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Aren't the British are supposed to be the most civilized nation on earth? In the old days, they used to say that an Englishman's home is his castle (i.e. don't dare step in his home without permission, or you will be in deep trouble).

In the motherland of Anglo-Saxon Civilization, a man has no right to defend his wife and children from home invaders. I thought only Zimbabwe denies Englishmen the right to defend their homes.

Instead of being put on trial like a common criminal, and threatened with the prospect of life in prison, Mr. Hastings should be rewarded for his courage in fighting off a violent robber with a criminal record, armed with only a knife.

Is Anglo-Saxon civilization on its last legs?

1 posted on 09/12/2002 12:38:51 PM PDT by jstone78
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The jury of six men and six women found Hastings guilty of manslaughter on a 10-2 majority verdict after 13 hours of deliberation.

Here in the (former) Colonies, we would call that a "hung jury". Of course, in many of these united States, he wouldn't have been charged in the first place.

2 posted on 09/12/2002 12:43:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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LOL @ There is no doubt that Roger Williams was a thoroughly bad hat in the eyes of the law.

The Brits are goofy, as usual.

3 posted on 09/12/2002 12:44:17 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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This is a familiar story. The British government won't protect its citizens from crime and won't let them protect themselves.
4 posted on 09/12/2002 12:44:42 PM PDT by Thud
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Mr. Hastings' mistake was to have not placed a butcher knife in the hand of the bastard.
5 posted on 09/12/2002 12:45:30 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Much like America, British citizens allow government to step all over their rights.
Unfortunately, I see no sign that the british people (or american people for that matter) are ready to initiate change.
6 posted on 09/12/2002 12:45:51 PM PDT by Drammach
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I can't even think of a cogent response to this rediculous ruling. What the hell were they thinking? This man should be celebrated, not imprisoned.
7 posted on 09/12/2002 12:48:52 PM PDT by WindMinstrel
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A disgusting verdict, but this jumped out at me:

Hastings, who was remanded in custody to be sentenced next month, faces a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.

The Brits don't have the death penalty, right? And yet the maximum for *manslaughter* is life in prison? Huh?

8 posted on 09/12/2002 12:51:15 PM PDT by Sloth
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By all means, ping uk_nomad about this. She's a "refugee" from the US (Texas) to England, and she's absolutely convinced the English are superior to Americans in every way, AND they're not barbarians about justice. She'd LOVE the verdict in this case.
16 posted on 09/12/2002 1:19:21 PM PDT by Treebeard
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I hereby propose a trade. England can have as many of our death row inmates as they would like - seeing how they find our death penalty barbaric. In return they may send us this terrible hardened criminal who committed the "bread knife massacre."
17 posted on 09/12/2002 1:21:15 PM PDT by Snuffington
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The moral of the story is don't just mame burglars... finish them off.
24 posted on 09/12/2002 1:52:31 PM PDT by Sinner6
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Williams was a thoroughly bad hat in the eyes of the law. But, as a human being, he is just as entitled to the freedom to live as anyone else

A man's freedom to live presumes that he is not going out of his way to threaten others. When he goes out of his way to threaten others, he invites whatever response he may get.

This result shows a very strange new system of values in a once proud nation. That a father needs to use a bread knife to defend his family is the sad thing; not that a burglar died.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

28 posted on 09/12/2002 2:04:59 PM PDT by Ohioan
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In the old days, they used to say that an Englishman's home is his castle (i.e. don't dare step in his home without permission, or you will be in deep trouble).

Yes. Maryland law is based on that old English law. While many consider MD very "liberal" the old law still rules and one does not have to retreat if an invader enters the home.

32 posted on 09/12/2002 2:27:44 PM PDT by cinFLA
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Gee. My source of defense is an Adirondack 28 inch Jackie Robinson all-star model. I guess I would get a lifetime suspension from baseball too!
33 posted on 09/12/2002 2:28:29 PM PDT by eternity
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they used to say that an Englishman's home is his castle But under socialism no one has a castle, remember? And, besides, the burglar was probably from a poor family, and the society drove him to his "occupation." It's all the castle-owners' fault.
43 posted on 09/12/2002 3:26:25 PM PDT by TopQuark
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