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'Wichita Horror' trial to begin
Washington Times ^ | 9/09/02 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 09/09/2002 1:53:25 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

When Reginald and Jonathan Carr go on trial today for a crime spree now known as the "Wichita Horror," there probably won't be any mention of race.

But that doesn't mean the people of Wichita won't be thinking about it.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
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1 posted on 09/09/2002 1:53:25 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
These guys have a huge rap sheet and there are Carrs listed for page after page in the district court appearance docket list. Huge disfunctional family.
2 posted on 09/09/2002 2:03:24 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: kattracks
Hang 'em high. ba$tards
3 posted on 09/09/2002 2:04:11 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
This sounds like a rather straightforward case. I don't care about hoopla over it just as long as they hang (wishful thinking).
4 posted on 09/09/2002 2:40:36 AM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: kattracks
"The whole purpose of having them (hate crime laws) is that it's more serious to attack a racial group than just a guy."

Fact is that it isn't worse, regardless of the race involved. It is "a guy" who dies, not a race.

5 posted on 09/09/2002 2:48:37 AM PDT by TN4Liberty
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To: kattracks
. The defense, which tried unsuccessfully to move the trial, released a survey earlier this year showing that 74 percent of county residents said the Carrs were either "guilty" or "definitely guilty."

And that's only because "Guilty as Hell" was not a choice!

Needless to say, all hate crime statutes are moronic.

6 posted on 09/09/2002 2:58:47 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: Texas_Jarhead
The "Mainstream Media" should be hung in public right beside them.This has been going on for years and has not only been covered up by "Mainstream Media" but also by our Federal Government.Americans have been brainwashed to the point they no longer have a conscience when a white person is murdered by a black,they cower in the shadows and whisper.We deserve what we get.
7 posted on 09/09/2002 3:27:27 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: gunnedah
Hear, hear!

The Carr's can only be put to death once. The PC reporters and their editors who sat on this story deserve to have the images of the victims seared into their minds and their families' minds forever. That is the crime that is now to be prosecuted.

8 posted on 09/09/2002 4:01:45 AM PDT by eno_
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To: kattracks
Hate crime hypocrisy bump.
9 posted on 09/09/2002 5:02:09 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
If any of those people would have had a handgun--say a
.45--BAM BAM. The innocent would be alive, the guilty dead,
and no trial would be needed.
10 posted on 09/09/2002 5:06:30 AM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: kattracks
Reginald and Jonathan Carr were merely performing an act of revolutionary violence/symbolic speech demonstrating solidarity with all oppressed peoples of the earth in partial reparation for years of their subjugation at the hands of the white, male, pig oppressor class.

Aren't Reginald and Jonathan the real victims here?

11 posted on 09/09/2002 5:14:19 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: kattracks
District Attorney Nola Foulston argued that she couldn't charge the brothers with hate crimes because Kansas had no hate-crimes statute.

This is a show-stopping detail that shows why Kansas is not charging them with Hate Crimes.... However, the point that the news media is at fault here still holds.

I'm not familiar wiith this case...

Because the Carrs are black and their victims white, many observers expected the brothers to be charged with hate crimes.

Is this the only basis for "hate" or did the perps say things that would lead you to suspect the killings were racially motivated?

12 posted on 09/09/2002 5:16:37 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: kattracks
"That sense of racial injustice was exacerbated by the dearth of national media attention on the crime."

That's almost an understatement. This happened in Kansas and I live in Nebraska and I don't remember hearing about this. I guess I missed the two-sentence article about it in the local rag.

13 posted on 09/09/2002 5:26:19 AM PDT by Pablo64
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To: alfa6; kcpopps; Bahbah; MrB; Free State Four; CarolAnn; lagamorph; gura; CARTOUCHE; Lee Heggy; ...
Kansas bump.
14 posted on 09/09/2002 5:31:32 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: cyncooper
Kansas justice ping.
15 posted on 09/09/2002 5:45:37 AM PDT by EllaMinnow
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To: kattracks
If they are found guilty, it will be called a Hate Verdict.
16 posted on 09/09/2002 5:53:05 AM PDT by Consort
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To: TroutStalker; KANSAS
Thanks for the ping, TroutStalker. I've been waiting patently for this trial to get started.

Archived "Wichita Horror" Posts

Killing Suspect Just Out of Jail - 01/01/2001

Scott McConnell: "Unfit to Print" - 01/10/2001

THE WICHITA HORROR - 01/13/2001

DA, Public Interest Clash Over Records (Wichita multiple murder) - 01/13/2001

Court seals case files in Wichita quadruple homicides - 01/14/2001

Lawyer asks to close pretrial proceedings (Update on The Wichita Horror) - 01/17/2001

Lawyers brawl over records (Wichita Horror/Quadruple Homicide) - 01/27/2001

BLOODY KANSAS: HATE CRIMES IN WICHITA? - 02/12/2001

Hate Crimes: A One-Way Street? - 03/05/2001

Carrs (Wichita Horror) to have joint preliminary hearing - 04/14/2001

The Wichita Massacre - 07/16/2002

BLACK RACISM: THE HATE CRIME THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME - 07/16/2002


17 posted on 09/09/2002 6:06:39 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
Thanks for keeping the archives.
18 posted on 09/09/2002 6:09:40 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: Trickyguy
.357 magnum revolver bump!

19 posted on 09/09/2002 6:17:03 AM PDT by dpa5923
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To: KS Flyover
patently = patiently

And a BUMP!

20 posted on 09/09/2002 6:33:03 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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