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To: AppyPappy
Actually, ever since General Ashcroft pushed the U.S. Patriot Act through an overwhelmingly supine Congress soon after September 11, he has subverted more elements of the Bill of Rights than any attorney general in American history.

Really? Lets forget about the Japanese interment and Wilson's imprisoning of socialist and antiwar leaders for opposing WWI- and Abe lincoln's dictator state. Instead, let's ignore the fact that we have radical cells of immigrants (non ctizens) and citizens alike that want to kill hundreds of thousands if not millions of civilian Americans.

The new Steven Spielberg-Tom Cruise movie, Minority Report, shows the government, some years hence, imprisoning "pre-criminals" before they engage in, or even think of, terrorism. That may not be just fiction, folks.

Nat? Stop it. You are making a fool out of yourself.

4 posted on 09/04/2002 12:30:20 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
...and Abe lincoln's dictator state.

Which was still far better than the dictator state of the South for black people.

You can't have it both ways.

Now, can we return to the 21st century, please?

5 posted on 09/04/2002 12:32:12 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Burkeman1
You are making a fool out of yourself.

Yet again.

87 posted on 09/04/2002 1:55:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Burkeman1
Our government is in bed with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, and other radical Islamic governments that are rabidly plotting against us! This illustrates how ineffective our government's approach in combating the organized Islamic terrorism movement.

If we fail to recognize that the terror comes from ISLAMIC JIHADISTS that are fully supported by the PEOPLE and the GOVERNMENTS of these nations, then we are wasting our time and money messing with a sitting duck like Saddam! If you remember as the Egyptian Islamic terrorists attacked the WTC in 1993, and our embassies in Africa, we simply sent a few cruise missiles against Sudan, and Afghanistan. We should have had Mubarak by the throat and dictated to him to shut down ALL the anti-American propaganda from his Islamists. If he is unable to deliver, then what good is he, or the three billion dollars per year that we are spending on him? My friend History is repeating itself again! As the world super-power, and with the world sympathy on our side, we should be able to shut down the Islamic movement! Instead, we are dancing around the issue, and screaming so loud that Islam is a “peaceful religion”!

177 posted on 09/05/2002 7:29:44 AM PDT by philosofy123
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