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On the Importance of Jihad as a Means of Destroying the 'Infidel Countries'
The Middle East Media Research Institute ^ | September 04, 2002 | MEMRI

Posted on 09/03/2002 6:13:40 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt

A website hosted in Clifton, New Jersey and affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ( www.Jehad.net ) is calling on Muslims throughout the world to "torture infidels".


THE MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE
Special Dispatch Series - No. 418
September 04, 2002 No.418
An Al-Qa'ida-Affiliated Online Magazine: On the Importance of Jihad as a Means of Destroying the 'Infidel Countries'
In an article in the sixteenth issue of the online magazine Al-Ansar, which is affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ,(1) a columnist identified as Seif Al-Din Al-Ansari discussed the Koranic verse "Allah Will Torture Them [the Infidels] At Your Hands":

The Annihilation of the Infidels is a Divine Decree

"Regardless of the norms of 'humanist' belief, which sees destroying the infidel countries as a tragedy requiring us to show some conscientious empathy and... an atmosphere of sadness for the loss that is to be caused to human civilization - an approach that does not distinguish between believer and infidel... - I would like to stress that annihilating the infidels is an inarguable fact, as this is the [divine] decree of fate..."

"When the Koran places these tortures [to be inflicted on the infidels] in the solid framework of reward and punishment... it seeks to root this predestined fact in the consciousness of the Muslim group, asserting that the infidels will be annihilated, so as to open a window of hope to the Muslim group..."

"Nevertheless, [this divine decree] has become, for some, a tranquilizing pill... When the enemy launches operations of colonialism and destruction, we find that a few [of the Muslims] refrain from entering the battlefield claiming that the elements of the collapse of Western civilization are proliferating [in any event]."

"Their conclusion is indeed true, but the way in which it is presented is misleading, and it is aimed at removing responsibility [to fight the infidels] from the Muslim, with the claim that Allah has already promised to take care of the infidels' annihilation."

Muslims Must Not Wait Passively for the Divine Decree to Just Happen

"...I would like to point out the danger of this analysis, because it... [may] make the Muslims passive and turn [them] into one who does not act to carry out [the commandments] of the religion or to dispel falsehood, but lives always in an atmosphere of passive waiting, that is cloaked - always - by a call to trust in the ability of Allah!!"

"When Allah told us of the certainty of the annihilation of the infidels, He did not do so using ambiguous concepts. He clarified that this would be achieved in one of two ways: by means of a direct act of Allah... or by means of the Muslim group, which would, in accordance with the Islamic commandment, serve as an implement for carrying out [the divine decree], as it is said: '...Allah will torture them [the infidels] Himself or at our hands (Koran 9:52).'"

"Yes, perhaps it is predetermined that the infidel country will be annihilated. But [if the believers do not act] this kind of annihilation will never be in favor of the Islamic state. The infidel country will be annihilated in favor of an infidel country like it or even worse than it..."

"Therefore, the belief in 'annihilating the country of heresy' [only] opens up for us a window of hope, and sets for us a goal that is in the realm of the possible - but it does not annihilate the infidel country for us, nor does it even affect it!!"

"This is merely a belief, which, if unaccompanied by the words 'at your hands' that appear in the Koranic verse [9:14, 'Fight them and Allah will torture them at your hands'] - it will remain in the wonderful realm of ideas that float in the theoretical universe, and is like beautiful dreams that arouse conscientious emotions - yet, when we awake, we find that the infidel country still exists, falsehood is not destroyed [by itself] in favor of the truth, [except when] the truth goes into action..."

"The importance of the human effort to annihilate the infidels... is what Allah sought to teach the Muslims at the Battle of Uhud [625]. Then, there were [Muslims] who thought that because they were right they would most certainly defeat the enemy. The [Muslims] paid a high price for this..."

"By Means of Jihad - Allah Tortures [the Infidels] with Killing"

"The question now on the agenda is, how is the torture Allah wants done at our hands to be carried out?... This torture will not, in any way, be carried out by means of preaching [Da'wa], because preaching is activity of exposure, aimed at clarifying the truth in a way that makes it more easily acceptable. Preaching has nothing to do with torture; Jihad is the way of torturing [the infidels] at our hands."

"By means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with killing; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with injury; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of property; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of ruling. Allah tortures them by means of Jihad - that is, with heated war that draws its fire from the military front..."

"The Tortures Will Bring the Infidels to the Path of Righteousness"

"Material power is [to be] confronted with material power, and ideological power is [to be] confronted with ideological power... It would be idiocy to rely on the power of the truth in the face of F-16s. Allah is capable of destroying His enemy without anyone's mediation and without anyone's help, as His capability is absolute and unsurpassed. In spite of all the characteristics of power at their command, these infidel states are no more than a handful of creatures on the speck of dust called Planet Earth... [But] Jihad serves as a trial by suffering for the Muslims by means of the infidels, and for the infidels by means of the Muslims."

"The Muslims' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad's being the instrument by which it is possible to differentiate between the believers and the hypocrites... The infidels' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad being an exemplary lesson in values, delivered by a group of the pioneers of the Islamic nation, in a practical presentation"

"Many of the infidels will be shocked; their emotional entity will be shaken; and perhaps some of them will repent and learn their lesson. In addition, Jihad is a means of defeating them, and perhaps by means of this victory... the tortures will bring them back to the path of righteousness..."

Endnotes:
(1) Al-Ansar, No. 16, August 24, 2002, www.jehad.net . See MEMRI dispatches:
No. 353: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP35302
No. 344: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP34402



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To: JohnathanRGalt; BullDog108; swarthyguy; denydenydeny; The Ghost of Richard Nixon; Thinkin' Gal; ...
The Islamic agenda is for world control and they define "Peace" as world submission to Islam.  The American Muslim Council and Council on American-Islamic Relations ("CAIR") are Hamas-front organizations.

Tolerating Intolerance: The Challenge of Fundamentalist Islam in Western Europe -- This an excellent link on the effect of Muslim immigration in Europe.  MUST READ

Also note the similar effect in Denmark.   SOMETHING ROTTEN IN DENMARK? - by Daniel Pipes.  Excerpt:

August 27, 2002 -- A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that garnered wide international notice. Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

>* Importing unacceptable customs:

Here is an unacceptable imported custom --

On our Australian 60 minutes last night was a woman who was raped by three at a train station then carted off to a park then raped by 25 individuals,Lebanese Muslims,they all called each other on mobile phones to come join the fun,at one stage they even hosed her off with a fire hose before the last 2 raped her. They called her 'Australian pig' etc.

 21 posted on 8/11/02 5:54 PM Pacific by Crazymonarch

Rodney King asked, "Why can't we all get along together?"

The answer is simple.  Some people are just downright evil!

I cannot imagine that in WWII the U.S. would allow Germans and Japanese committed to the overthrow of the U.S. to form PACs and committees to lobby Congress and fill the media with their propaganda.  It is insane that it occurs inside the U.S. today in regarding to Muslims, especially after the Towers fell because of 19 Muslims.  Instead of continuing immigration of Muslims into America, they should be deported.  Instead of the government trying to disarm gun owners for a takeover, they should be ARMING America, including pulling kids out of schools and teaching them to shoot straight and defend themselves.

61 posted on 09/04/2002 8:55:22 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
62 posted on 09/04/2002 9:35:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee

BINGO!


63 posted on 09/04/2002 9:42:18 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: BullDog108
Thank you.
64 posted on 09/04/2002 9:48:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; ex-Texan; happygrl; bearsgirl90; shaggy eel; ...
The Trojan Horse

The Greeks left the huge wooden horse behind when they retreated from the siege of the walls of Troy.  Rejoicing at the war's apparent end, the Trojans brought the wooden horse within the walls of the city, ignoring the priest Laocoon's warning about Greek's bearing gifts.  That night the Greek warriors within the horse's belly crept out and opened the gates to renewed attack, and the city fell.  A detail from a seventh century B.C. vase shows the Greek warriors, rather humorously shown inside the wooden horse, being carried into the city.  Undoubtedly, the Greeks chose the horse for their devious vehicle, since they knew the Trojans, renowned horsemen, would have greater respect for the horse than any other animal.

What does America have so much respect for that it would lay down its guard?

Why did God name America MYSTERY BAYBLON? ~ (Click here)
Prophecy of Dimitru Duduman  - 1984 -

"Tell them, because all the nations of the world immigrated to America with their own gods and were not stopped.  Encouraged by the freedom here, the wickedness began to increase. Later on, even though America was established as a Christian nation, the American people began to follow the strange gods that the immigrants had brought in, and also turned their backs on the God who had built and prospered this country."

De 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
65 posted on 09/05/2002 12:03:59 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: JohnathanRGalt; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; shaggy eel; Fred Mertz; babylonian; ..
False religion in two forms:
  A WorldNetDaily Exclusive! "The Trojan Horse" is a French-produced video documentary that demonstrates, through exclusive footage of Palestinian leaders themselves -- including Yasser Arafat -- that their goal remains the eradication of the Jewish state.

 * See never-before-seen video of Arafat calling for jihad and the total destruction of Israel.
 * See Arafat's spokesman explain the peace process is merely a first step toward the destruction of Israel.
 * See Arafat's henchmen deny the Holocaust.
 * See the indoctrination of young children and girls in martyrdom for his cause.


   Source - The Trojan Horse in the Temple: The Hidden Agenda of the Ecumenical Movement by Alan Morrison.  ..."Although Christian unity is desirable, and also thoroughly Biblical, a line must be clearly drawn when such unity begins to compromise the unique truths which have been preserved throughout the centuries in the true Church...  In recent years, many Christians have expressed disquiet with what is popularly known as the Ecumenical Movement, which seeks to bring all Christian denominations and organizations into a universal conglomerate.  In this book, it is shown that this concern is justified and that there is a hidden agenda to the global development of such ecumenism, through which there is a concerted effort to undermine..."


66 posted on 09/05/2002 1:06:41 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
if we let it get out of control, this might happen here. But there are many of us who are working with our Mosques and Mosques throughout the U.S., in an attempt to rid them of these hate-preaching Imams. To destroy these houses of worship is deplorable and will only cause sympathy for the terrorists. There is a review-board that is like the "secret shopper" program. This board enters a mosque and listens for hate-speech or racist propaganda. If it exists, this person is reported to teh authorities and they are allowed to handle it.
The muslims that I know are not advocates of 9/11. I don't know what other people were doing, but all of the people at my mosque were distraught and saddened by that evil act of terror.
You can get mad at them, but WE are the only ones who can put a leash on them. And we are working at it very dilligently.
67 posted on 09/05/2002 4:37:26 AM PDT by Sharif
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To: Quix
they were taken out of context and mistranslated. thst is how. violence was only permitted in defense from attack. the spread of Islam was not by the sword. These people were trying to recapture their homelands. after they accepted Islam, they were banished from there properties. So they returned and retook their lands. That is justifiable.
68 posted on 09/05/2002 4:39:01 AM PDT by Sharif
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To: Sharif
Sorry.
Cute suarahs are a poor substitute for Muslim Mass Murder perpetrated daily worldwide.

Useless even.

Muslims are what they do, not what they say...

69 posted on 09/05/2002 5:22:16 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Sharif
You can get mad at them, but WE are the only ones who can put a leash on them.

If you don't, we'll put a noose on them! And we will still use every available resource monitering ALL of you.

70 posted on 09/05/2002 6:43:53 AM PDT by BullDog108
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To: Sharif
the spread of Islam was not by the sword.

LOL! BULLSHIT, dude. How do you explain the rape and pillaging of India by your bloodthirsty brothers?

Delenda est Islam!


71 posted on 09/05/2002 6:46:31 AM PDT by BullDog108
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To: Sharif
Islam is not about murder and slaughter, and whoever thinks that it is needs to research Islam a little more closely.

I've read the Koran. From my copy of it:
 

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day ... until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low
            Surah IX:29

O ye who believe! Choose not for friends such of those who received the Scriptures before you
        Surah V:57

Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush...
        Surah IX:5

And slay them wherever ye find them ... Such is the reward of disbelievers.
        Surah II:191
 

After doing my research, I conclude that Muslims who deny that Islam is about the violent enslavement/killing of non-Muslims are liars who think that their audience is incapable of finding out the truth
72 posted on 09/05/2002 6:59:49 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor
, I conclude that Muslims who deny that Islam is about the violent enslavement/killing of non-Muslims are liars who think that their audience is incapable of finding out the truth

Do you want me to pull some Bible verses that "justified" the crusades?

Give the kid a break. There are Muslims in the world willing to peacefully co-exist.

73 posted on 09/05/2002 8:06:06 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: Sharif
I'd like very much to believe that explains it all.

Alas the descendant of Mohammed who lived with me for over a year and new the Koran exceedingly well disagrees with you. I'm afraid I trust his opinion in the matter more.
74 posted on 09/05/2002 8:48:16 AM PDT by Quix
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Bump for later.
75 posted on 09/05/2002 10:08:35 AM PDT by Pipe Dog
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
>>relatives of mine in Brooklyn personally observed Muslims on Atlantic Avenue openly celebrating the 9-11 attacks on the WTC

Also, Saudi and Arab patients in a ward at a major hospital
in another east coast city were cheering the morning of Sept. 11 when the planes hit.

76 posted on 09/05/2002 12:19:40 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: BullDog108
Took the words out of my mouth.

Not by the sword.

Next, our president will be claiming that islam is a 'religion' of 'peace'.
77 posted on 09/05/2002 12:23:15 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy; Sharif; The Ghost of Richard Nixon; Quix; BullDog108; DWSUWF; VRW Conspirator; Cindy; ..
Here's what the encyclopedia says about
Jihad


Jihad, in Islam, the spiritual struggle against evil. Jihad is the duty of all mainstream Muslims, or Sunnites. There are four ways they may fulfill a jihad: by the heart, the tongue, the hand, and the sword. These refer to the inner, spiritual battle of the heart against vice, passion, and ignorance; spreading the word of Islam with one's tongue; choosing to do good and avoiding evil with one's hand; and waging war against non-Muslims with the sword.

Islamic law divides the world into dar al-Islam (abode of Islam) and dar al-harb (abode of war—that is, of non-Muslim rule). Most modern branches of Islam stress the inner, spiritual jihad. But Islamic law also states that all nations must surrender to Islamic rule, if not its faith. Until that time, all adult, male, and able-bodied Muslims are expected to take part in hostile jihads against non-Muslim neighbors and neighboring lands. The Qur'an (Koran) states that those who die in this type of jihad automatically become martyrs of the faith and are awarded a special place in heaven.

For Muslims, there exist two kinds of non-Muslim enemies: kafir (nonbelievers in Islam) and ahl al-kitab (people of the book). Kafir, such as Buddhists and Hindus (see Buddhism; Hinduism), must either convert to Islam or face execution. Once converted to Islam it is a capital offense to renounce the faith.

People of the book include Jews, Christians, and followers of Zoroastrianism. These people need only submit to Muslim political authority to avoid or end a jihad. They may keep their original faith, but their status becomes dhimmi (a "protected" non-Muslim) and they must pay a prescribed poll tax.

In contrast to mainstream Sunnites, Muslim groups such as the Imami and BohoraIsmaili- Shiites are forbidden from participating in a hostile jihad. These sects believe the only person legitimately capable of conducting such a jihad is their imam, or spiritual leader.

    Jihad," Microsoft® Encarta® Online Encyclopedia 2001
   http://encarta.msn.com © 1997-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


78 posted on 09/05/2002 1:54:04 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Insane death cult bump!
79 posted on 09/05/2002 2:15:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: JohnathanRGalt
THANKS 4 AN INFORMATIVE POST
80 posted on 09/05/2002 2:31:00 PM PDT by Quix
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