Posted on 09/03/2002 4:43:42 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the "whole language method?"
The teachers are to blame...for buying into the NEA criminal socialization schemes over the past 40 years. We have examples of schools that work all over the country. The Jesuits have been teaching successfully for hundreds of years....(or else!). What works is known. There's no excuse.
Politicians are to blame for continuing to bow down to the powerful teachers' unions and funnel increasing $$$ into their failed schools.
Parents are to blame for not disciplining their own children and for buying into the current news/media version of world history, junk science and moral relativism. For choosing to remain young (immature) and be their kids "buddies" instead of doing the tough job of laying down the rules and being the parents.
Grandparents are to blame. How did the "greatest generation" come to believe that their grandmothers were weak, that abortion was acceptable as a means of birth control, that the family structure that worked for thousands of years was flawed and that this generation was wiser than all that came before? How did they forget the faith that brought them through the darkest years of the war and readily surrender their Bibles, their Christianity, their humility, their joy...for shallow vanity and bitter cynicism? Kinsey? Dr. Spock? TV? Social Security? Forgetting, in their post-war self-contratulating to thank the One responsible?
The ACLU is to blame, along with the USSC...for the lie of Church-State separation that crept into our schools, our courtrooms and public squares. Making it acceptable to discriminate based on religion, frightening pastors into silence when the Bible contradicted a current candidate's politics or lifestyle.
The Church is to blame. Parishioners expecting guidance from their pastors too often found pastors finding guidance not from God, but from the world. The Church, and the world, underestimated the influence of the most powerful propaganda tool the world has ever known... TV.
Those who so quickly condemn religion should spend as much time studying the Bible as they do the TV guide.
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him ...Prov.13:24.
Kids get this. They don't want parent "buddies" or teacher "buddies"...they need adults who behave like adults to help them grow up, to teach them, discipline them.
Kids test the limits. If there are no limits, there is no growth. As young adults they lack the self-control necessary to say no to the temptations in life...lack the courage to stick with tough studies or real work, lack the inter-personal skills to make real friends or form the more complex bonds with the opposite sex required for true intimacy and marriage, lack the ability to set goals; gaining acceptance through "fellowship" with other angry "victims"...unable to outgrow "peer pressure" they conform to fad after cultural fad, exploited by adult "users" (poverty pimps, political activist profs, etc.), and exploiting others they join the collective...safe at last, introspection no longer required, parroting the simple old socialist talking points, decade after decade, though millions die, Hollywood glorifies and history proves the lie of their "faith"...they follow blindly...because it's easy, because they are too steeped in instant gratification and flush with peer acceptance to have to think, because the truth would condemn, not free them....and the quiet moments between raves and rants must be dulled with drugs, food, wine, sex, pain...
...while we ignore our own blessings, move across country from our kids, choose to look the other way or lock our doors...and turn the channel.
Imho.
Is it that, or has the idea of tasting other people's derrières been made socially acceptable? Given some of the other stuff the [bleep]ing [bleep]er[bleep]ers have put into the curriculum, that wouldn't seem out of the question...
I think the author is stating that his students mistakenly think they're capable of intelligently discussing most anything...when they know frighteningly little. He's shocked at their arrogance and ignorance...he is not supporting this sloppy thinking and B.S. masquerading as wisdom and learning.
Have you ever listened to G. Gordon Liddy talk about his Jesuit school education? They all learned....the old-fashioned way. No classes on "self-esteem," no teacher's union, no school board, no parents threatening lawsuits, no Ritalin, no "boys and girls are the same," no new math. They learned.
~ cynical and mean-spirited ~
I posted what I did not so much because the article decried education, but more because I anticipated (and I hate to say this--am I exaggerating too much?) the usual attacks on intellectuals. (Probably should have saved it for some other time!)
Oh, for the record, I have nothing against home schooling. I DO utterly hate the present public school system, and even more so the corrupt leftists who run it.
"~ cynical and mean-spirited ~ --yeti"
Students have been robbed. The lessons and important historical facts that have been left out of the curriculum for the past at LEAST 40 yrs hasn't helped. The friend Gummy and I referred to, says the education went into a downward spiral back in the early 20's - 30's. Do you agree?
I believe this sentence is the key....where did they learn this attitude? I don't believe they learned it from public schools or public school teachers. There are probably many public school teachers with the same attitude. Where did they learn it? Figure that out, change it, and we'll get somewhere. (I would give a hint...but...)
I believe this sentence is the key....where did they learn this attitude? I don't believe they learned it from public schools or public school teachers.
Of course they learned it from public school. They were handed straight "A"s from the public schools, without having to earn them. Grade inflation. They "earned" these grades by sitting like good little drones for 12 years absorbing everything they heard without questioning any of it, or being asked to produce any original thought or work.
Ignorance may have been humiliating for most, and still is for some. However, I remember kids bragging about not caring about school. Remember the song "the wall" by pink floyd? Very popular song when I was in junior high. Excerpt "we don't need no education"...
At least some elementary schools do indeed reward incorrect answers.. I know that from experience.
What is the entire point of the article?
I went to public school, but thankfully had parents who made sure I learned....I lived at the library. Now, think....who "governs" the public school. Don't say the feds....states still have a choice to refuse federal money and keep total control of their schools. Actually they can give all control to the local systems if the local system choses to use only local funds for their schools. Let's even say the locality is willing to forgo state and federal monies....who CONTROLS the schools? Who puts them in control?
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