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Satellite Search Underway For Noah's Ark
Space.com ^ | 8-30-2002 | Leonard David

Posted on 08/31/2002 7:15:41 PM PDT by blam

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To: LostTribe
I really don't have a date I feel strongly enough about to defend.

How about 2348 BC? I've got a Companion Bible by EW Bullinger and he lays out a detailed timeline in Appendix 50. Luckily, some folks have posted these online, you can find one here, under Table 7.

His date for the Exodus is 1491 BC in Table 11.

81 posted on 09/04/2002 4:00:01 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: blam
I remember reading in National Geographic about this region, it was supposedly an inland sea for over 2,000 years until about the time of Christ. If you look at this region from space, it really does look like a large body of water used to be there. I really wish I saved this one, I am guessing it was over 15 years go that I read it.

A bonus mention for the mummies that are being found there, it is possible that this is where the post-Adamic peoples lived until the time of Noah.

82 posted on 09/04/2002 4:04:53 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
>How about 2348 BC?... His date for the Exodus is 1491 BC in Table 11.

Hey, those are fine with me --- close enough for government work. {ggg}.  But I'm sure they may not be close enough for those who are really interested in pinning those dates down as close as possible.

My primary interest here is in The Lost Tribes of Israel, the old Northern Kingdom of Israel.  These people have been grossly understudied IMHO, and I try to give them my concentration.  So your dates are close enough to have no effect at all on my interest.

To see more about the Lost Tribes and Ancient Israelite history, click on my LostTribe Profile below and take 3 minutes to read the 3-MINUTE HISTORY.

83 posted on 09/04/2002 4:12:40 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
"I remember reading in National Geographic about this region, it was supposedly an inland sea for over 2,000 years until about the time of Christ. If you look at this region from space, it really does look like a large body of water used to be there."

Some of those mummies there are 4,000 years old and there are human artifacts there that are 1,000 years older than that. There was likely a salt water sea there at one time due to all the salt deposits there today but, I think we're talking tens of thousands and perhaps hundreds of thousand of years in the past.

My studies of the area lead me to think that the Uygars (European end) and the Hakka Chinese (Asian end) are the human remnants of the east/west meeting thousands of years ago in that basin. (Later, the Hakka Chinese migrated to southern China where they are known today as 'the friendly guests.')

BTW, the Uygars have adopted one of the mummies found there 'The Beauty Of Loulan' as the mother of their country.

84 posted on 09/04/2002 4:33:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

The Beauty Of Loulan

85 posted on 09/04/2002 4:35:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Some of those mummies there are 4,000 years old and there are human artifacts there that are 1,000 years older than that.

That places them from 3000 to 2000 BC. Not bad.

My studies of the area lead me to think that the Uygars (European end) and the Hakka Chinese (Asian end) are the human remnants of the east/west meeting thousands of years ago in that basin. (Later, the Hakka Chinese migrated to southern China where they are known today as 'the friendly guests.')

Interesting. Weren't some of the mummies found with tartan-style clothing? That would be a shocker to the status quo.

86 posted on 09/04/2002 4:38:54 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: blam
Is that a close up picture of a cold sore?
87 posted on 09/04/2002 4:42:42 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: LostTribe
Hey, those are fine with me --- close enough for government work. {ggg}. But I'm sure they may not be close enough for those who are really interested in pinning those dates down as close as possible.

What do you want, the day and month? :) (in case you do, I think he has April 2348 BC as the start of the flood...further examination might yield the exact day so you can plug in to find out if it was a Thursday or whatnot). The charts are extremely detailed so anyone can compare to their own timelines and see where they differ.

read the 3-MINUTE HISTORY

Thanks, but I contributed to that history if you recall. :)

88 posted on 09/04/2002 4:43:47 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
"Interesting. Weren't some of the mummies found with tartan-style clothing? That would be a shocker to the status quo."

The clothing has everyone stumped. They are just like the ones (using the exact same production method) found at the Celtic sites at Hallstadt. It's baffling because there isn't any trace of this clothing or techniques anywhere in between these two areas.

For a good read on the fabrics see, The Mummies Of Urumchi by Elizabeth Barber. For the people, The Tarim Mummies, by Victor Mair.

...and if you ever figure out who were the Tocharians, please let me know.

89 posted on 09/04/2002 5:02:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
"I think he has April 2348 BC as the start of the flood...

Tree ring data indicates that there was a worldwide catastrophe at 2354BC. (Trees all over the world recorded the event, this is also the date Ussher claims for Noah's flood))

90 posted on 09/04/2002 5:09:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
>Thanks, but I contributed to that history if you recall. :)

I sure do! But not everyone else has read it yet. I'm sure Blam is VERY interested in those dates since he is very interested in pinning down Noah.

91 posted on 09/04/2002 7:18:15 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
It's always interested me that God picked the greatest part of Israel to wander around and get lost, losing their very identity. I tend to think there are no unintended consequences around God. When they lost their identities, they lost their Israelite traditions. If that's not an unintended consequence, it must be for a purpose.

Possibly, that purpose was to clear the programing so that a new doctrine, that of Jesus', delived by his disciples could be loaded. Those who learned from the teachings and preaching of Jesus also learned the old doctrine as well, with its wise counsel on human relationships, behavior and the commandments of God.

I'd expect that God, while He was talking to Abraham, knew exactly how it would work out in what we call the future, hence the prophesies. We are here, now, and it could be said that it's playing out that way.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll just step behind you here, just in case there's a bolt of lightening headed my way.

92 posted on 09/04/2002 10:14:30 PM PDT by William Terrell
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To: blam
This topic fascinates me. I bet it is there.

Gen.8:4

[4] And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

Imagine the problems this would cause other religions who state otherwise. I believe the Muslims would have a problem with this if proven. Correct me if I am wrong on this.

93 posted on 09/04/2002 10:26:27 PM PDT by nmh
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To: stainlessbanner
Ron Wyatt has been discredited. Still, I think it is where God said it is - on the mountians of Arat(sp).
94 posted on 09/04/2002 10:40:04 PM PDT by nmh
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To: LostTribe
Actually it's in the OT text. You ought to study it.
95 posted on 09/05/2002 8:43:31 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: LostTribe
Apparently you've never heard of Sephardic vs Ashkenazi. Not to mention the diaspora since AD70.
96 posted on 09/05/2002 8:48:06 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: LostTribe
My case is normative history. Feel free to illuminate the alternative version for our amusement.
97 posted on 09/05/2002 8:49:42 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham
>Feel free to illuminate the alternative version for our amusement.

It's all at my FR LostTribe Profile site. Try reading the 3-MINUTE HISTORY, then, in direct response to it, making a substantative contribution to the discussion. Throwing rocks like a spoiled child doesn't count.

98 posted on 09/05/2002 10:18:22 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Yeah, whatever. Tell us what denominations, if any, throughout the nearly two millennia of church history have supported your claims? Can you name for me one creed that says anything about your view of the "lost tribes"? Is it in Schaff? Just give me a source. If your view is supported by scholars, and isn't the hobbyhorse of a fringe group with an agenda, then you will be able to provide scholarly citations. Surely you have some impressive works to cite for that 3 minute history.
99 posted on 09/05/2002 10:30:32 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham
My case is normative history

You mean that all humankind descended from a common ancestor in Africa? Psshaw, you had me falling off my chair and spitting soda on my keyboard at the same time...good one! The liberal PC colleges can't keep a straight story when it comes to what happened yesterday but we're supposed to believe what these commies have to say what happened 3000 years ago...hehe, stop it yer killing me, hehehe.

If the revisionism of the last 50 years doesn't send off warning bells to you, then no amount of hard evidence is going to help you now, but if you can name any 2 countries that fit Manasseh and Ephraim more than the USA and England, I'll eat my hat. Oh, that's right, they, along with their brethern just 'disappeared' into the landscape, almost a quarter of the population of the area at the time...yeah, right.

100 posted on 09/05/2002 10:50:05 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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