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To: DrLiberty
PROVE IT!

Well, I'm trying to get some work done here, but here are a couple of references. Otherwise, you may prove they weren't. This is your thread, and the burden of proof is on you.

Link: http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:oA_-nRK5rHUC:www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,551070,00.html+flight+93+passenger+manifest&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles / Thursday September 13, 2001 The Guardian

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"The hijackers had apparently armed themselves not with any weapons that could have been spotted by metal detectors or security checks at the airports but with the kind of self-made weapons used by prisoners: razors embedded in plastic, plastic knives, cardboard cutters and Stanley knives. They could have been smuggled on board in their hand luggage.

Already US airports have announced that all knives, whether plastic or metal, will be banned from airport complexes. Cafes and restaurants have been asked to remove them from service.

The attorney general, John Ashcroft, told a press conference last night that the hijack teams appeared to have consisted of between three and six people each, and that the pilots in the teams had all been trained in the US. They had overpowered the airline crews with makeshift weapons and with bomb threats, he said.

Flying video

Two of the suspects were brothers with passports traced to the United Arab Emirates, according to the Boston Herald. The Boston Globe reported that one suspect's luggage did not make the connection. That bag contained a Koran, an instructional video on flying commercial airliners and a fuel consumption calculator, the newspaper said.

The FBI has even taken the chairs the suspects may have used while waiting to board the flights as part of its forensic investigation.

The hijackers perhaps came together from different parts of the US. orida, law enforcement officials said they had identified a person suspected of being a hijacker and a possible associate of Osama bin Laden on the passenger manifest of one of the four downed planes.

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You can't check luggage unless you have a ticket to board the flight. You can't get into the waiting area without a ticket. If you have a ticket, you're on the passenger manifest.

If you refuse to accept this line of reasoning, how do you explain how each of the hijackers were identified?

Another link: http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/September_11,_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Plane_casualties

"265 people killed on four planes; 232 passengers, 25 flight attendants, 8 pilots. (Note that this total includes 19 hijackers, who reportedly boarded the planes as passengers.)

This page contains a full manifest of each flight, including each hijacker. The above page contains more details on the hijackers.

Widely reported accounts also detail the flight attendant identifying the seat that one hijacker had been sitting in - she was speaking with her airline base, thinking clearly enough to do so, in order to get an ID on one hijacker.

Because the manifests available to the flight crew was not edited in any way, the flight attendant would have the name of each hijacker. Read more:

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Here's more: http://www.marsearthconnection.com/manifests.html

Re: The Confusion Over the Missing Names on Passenger Manifests

There seems to be some confusion as to why the hijackers names don't appear on the passenger manifests. There are several theories floating around, one being that they weren't on the planes, at all. I had seen the original and complete passenger manifests, several weeks ago, before the hijackers names had been removed so I knew they were included. I wanted to find out why they'd been removed so I did a bit of checking.

I, also, found the complete passenger manifest, which includes the hijackers names...

I found references regarding the fact that there had been a complete list with their names on it, at one time. It came out on the 13th of September and The Boston Globe reported having it..they, too, have since removed the hijackers names. They do state, however, that it is a 'partial list'..."Partial lists of those killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to family members, friends, co-workers and law enforcement."

I received the following email, with an explanation as to why the names had been removed...

Email - Dated: 01-11-03 17:15:55 EST

Re: passenger lists

"I have heard that these names were purposely removed because having them mixed with the victims would have caused great emotional distress for the victims' friends and families. Almost as if the innocent dead were being further damaged by having the perpetrators' names listed along with theirs."

"The Boston Globe reported on its website Thursday [September 13] that it had obtained a copy of the complete manifest list of the planes hijacked from Boston.

The Globe said according to the manifest, Mohamed Atta, one of the suspected terrorists, was assigned seat 8D in business class on American Airlines Flight 11, directly across the aisle from Hollywood producer David Angell and his wife, Lynn, who were in seats 8A and 8B, respectively. Seated next to Atta in seat 8G was Abdul Alomari. FBI investigators have searched Alomari’s home in Vero Beach.

The Globe reported the passenger list for United Air Lines Flight 175 shows that Marwan Alshehri got on the plane that left Boston and slammed into one of the Manhattan skyscrapers 15 minutes after Flight 11. An FAA pilot directory information spelled his name Marwan Alshehhi..."

"The passenger manifest showed that Atta, a pilot, was on board American Airlines Flight 11, the first of two to hit the World Trade Center on September 11."

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I think I've spent enough time on research here. If you have the time, enter "Flight 11 175 93 77 passenger manifest" in Google, and read away.

129 posted on 08/29/2002 8:55:51 PM PDT by bootless
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To: bootless
Thanks for the info on the manifests. Makes sense.
133 posted on 08/29/2002 9:19:17 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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