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Sustaining Environmentalists
Wall St Journal ^ | August 27, 2002 | PHILIP STOTT

Posted on 08/27/2002 6:07:43 AM PDT by SJackson

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:46:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 08/27/2002 6:07:43 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Environmentalim = socialism.
2 posted on 08/27/2002 6:23:25 AM PDT by moyden
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To: SJackson
Destroying Capitalism is the goal

Enviromentalism is the tool.

3 posted on 08/27/2002 6:27:09 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: SJackson
"Mr. Stott is a professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London. "

I didn't realize there was this much logic in the whole of England.

4 posted on 08/27/2002 6:27:43 AM PDT by lstanle
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To: lstanle
notice how this is buried in the WSJ where you would have to register to see it...
5 posted on 08/27/2002 6:41:35 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: SJackson
The third world hates American because we have made the best use of our resources and have become very well off because of that. Yes we have electricity and running water and air conditioned homes and to the third world I must tell you that it is indeed very nice. And you should have the same stuff.

But I am tired of sharing my wealth with people who have squandered opportunity after opportunity to develop their own resources. I am tired of sharing with countrys that have restricted development because of ongoing barbaristic tribal wars. I am tired of countries blaming colonialism for their problems.

Now those poor countries think they can EXTORT America into giving up our lifestyle because of the environment. It isn't my fault you poor 3rd worlders are growing up in a desert with no water. You have had many opportunities to bring water to your area. But you would rather battle the next village over the grazing of goats, while we in America have built some of the greatest dams and irrigation systems in the world because America knows how to cooperate and gain the best of the natural resources available.

Now the sissy 3rd world thinks America should not have the best of everything because they can't handle the responsibility of developing into a true civilization. Thank your dictators for keeping you down in subservience. Ask your Dictators where all the Billions of Dollars of Aid to help you develop has gone. Ask your dictators why the developed world no longer sends engineers and teachers to your country.

The one thing that will help a country develop is stability. Stability of the people. Stability of the Government. Stability is the one thing that America has been proud to have, and the single largest reason WHY we have the things we have. Yet you 3rd world countries seek to destabilize America in the name of the environment. We have tried to help you ALL in the past. Given you money and teachers and food. Perhaps that is the failure of American foreign policy?

Giving to the ungrateful only creates more greed. Giving you food does not motivate you to find your own way to grow food. Giving you teachers does not motivate you to nurture new teachers. Well I for one am tired of giving to the ungrateful who complain we have too much. I am tired of giving to the unmotivated. I am tired of giving to Dictators who have stolen what should have been taken to the people and become rich.

If you want what I have you either have to earn it, or take it over my dead body you 3rd world nations. And America should pull out of the UN. Since the UN seems to stand for UNITED NOTHINGS" we cannot associate with losers anymore.

6 posted on 08/27/2002 7:08:55 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: SJackson; Grampa Dave; madfly
Sustainability will always fail because it does not take change and dynamism as the norm. It seeks to curb evolutionary growth in the face of chaotic change.

Great post of an excellent article. Should be read by all and understood as a warning to destroy the enviromentalist philosophy wherever we see it. It is dangerous.

7 posted on 08/27/2002 7:17:39 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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Despite the fact that most photovoltaic cells take more energy to produce than they will ever generate in their lifetime

I've seen this a couple of times but I can't find good evidence on it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

8 posted on 08/27/2002 7:20:08 AM PDT by m1911
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10 posted on 08/27/2002 7:38:35 AM PDT by madfly
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You are a good writer. This is the first post of yours which I remember. I agree so strongly and wished I could so express that I searched your last months posts. Now I know more about you and agree with more. Congrats on your marriage. I cannot suggest anything to my 40 yr son to find him a good mate.
11 posted on 08/27/2002 7:55:04 AM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: SJackson
Bookmarked a great post...

I heard a comment on the radio yesterday by one of these nuts in SA saying something along the lines of "There is a sea of poverty with islands of wealth and those islands must share their good fortune with the less fortunante" That is not verbatim but close...Grrrr


12 posted on 08/27/2002 7:59:33 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: moyden
Communism---Loser, dead.

Socialism---Loser, death watch.

Enviromentalism---Ah ha! The new utopia, hey gang, come over here!

P.S, did all the communist go to the environmentalist movement like Michael Gorbachev, who joined the Green Cross?
13 posted on 08/27/2002 8:08:56 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: o_zarkman44
1. You are not "sharing" It is taken from you by force.

2. The third world is stable. Thugs and passive, human crop. The names change, but it is always the same.
14 posted on 08/27/2002 8:11:33 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: SJackson
Excellent post. It is this kind of thinking that has made the US, and other capitalist outposts, the desired destination of the ambitious poor, stuck in socialist hell-holes, the world over.
15 posted on 08/27/2002 8:29:07 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: SJackson
Neo-Druids.
16 posted on 08/27/2002 8:33:07 AM PDT by Consort
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To: madfly
Thanks for the heads up!
17 posted on 08/27/2002 8:41:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: moyden
Absolutely!Rush has been saying for years that the environmental movement was the new home of socialism(with the fall of the Evil Empire).
18 posted on 08/27/2002 8:58:30 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: CJ Wolf
maybe they want to be paid for their work
19 posted on 08/27/2002 11:39:50 AM PDT by bybybill
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Who the WSJ? or the guy who wrote the commentary?? The usual motive for commentary is to be heard not cash, although some are always motivated by money, but those that are; are usually not sincere and have another agenda. This person is not heard very loudly because of the registration fees WSJ wants.

But thanks to the poster who shared here.

20 posted on 08/27/2002 12:29:52 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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