[MarkL]

This is the sort of thing that I'd expect out of Columbia, MO...

The use of Israel as an object lesson is absolutely correct. It shows what happens when force and violence is applied, but in a limited fasion. The simple fact is that for a war to be won, it MUST be fought to the end, where there is a clear victor, and more importantly, an obvious loser. In every war fought by Israel, the world, i.e. he UN stood by, waiting for Israel to be pushed into the sea. Only when the tides of war turned with Israel about to completely destroy their attackers did the world, (again, the UN) step in and stop Israel from completely vanquishing their enemies.

It seems that nobody remembers the simple fact that we won WW-II, not by signing a treaty, but by completely destroying the ability of the axis powers to make war.

Mark

[esopman]

"...completely destroying the ability of the axis powers to make war..."

Lesseee...help me out here. According to Randal, Japan became a peaceful society renouncing the Bushido militarists because of the Roosevelt Peace Corps operations in the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere in the 1930's. Hitler abandoned all claims to the Sudetenland, the Austrian Anschluss and settled down to the quiet life of a third rate artist because of FDR's transfer of billions of dollars to the Reich. Mao's Communist Revolution and Cultural Revolution died aborning with the rise of the CEP (Chinese Environmental Party) which created a Green Paradise on the Chinese Mainland. Right?

Uhhh...never mind.