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Defiant Iraq vows to teach US a lesson it will never forget
Agence France-Presse | 8/16/02

Posted on 08/16/2002 7:27:32 PM PDT by kattracks

A defiant Iraq warned the United States it would be taught a lesson it will never forget if it launched a military campaign against Saddam Hussein's regime, threats of which it said left the Iraqi people unbowed.

"The Iraqis are ready to engage in a war against the United States and are determined to teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget," the official Al-Iraq newspaper vowed Friday.

"Statements and threats by American officials cannot terrorise the people of Iraq because their victory over the United States is guaranteed," the daily said.

Ath-Thawra, mouthpiece of the ruling Baath party in Baghdad, accused Washington of "adopting a policy of lies towards Iraq by making believe that the country produces weapons of mass destruction."

The papers were reacting to statements Thursday by US President George W. Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, that there was a "very powerful moral case" for ousting the Iraqi leader.

"This is an evil man who, left to his own devices, will wreak havoc again on his own population, his neighbours and, if he gets weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them, all of us," she said.

In Washington, the State Department said overnight it believed paperwork would soon be completed to allow an eight-million-dollar grant for the Iraqi National Congress (INC), an umbrella of Iraqi opposition groups, to go through after a three-month delay.

"We discussed the offer with the Iraqi National Congress leadership over the course of the last week and we do anticipate finalising an agreement very soon," deputy spokesman Philip Reeker said.

"We're anxious to continue our support ... for the Iraqi National Congress," Reeker said. "We believe that the INC can continue to play a productive and useful role through the activities proposed in our new agreement."

The money is to go to fund the INC newspaper, television station and regional offices, including an office of humanitarian relief, he said.

Reeker's comments came a week after representatives of six Iraqi opposition groups, including the INC, met here with senior US officials including Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to discuss ways in which Saddam Hussein could be ousted.

Meanwhile, Britain's Independent newspaper reported Friday that Iraq would agree to the return of UN arms inspectors if they were accompanied by neutral observers including British religious leaders.

Quoting unnamed senior diplomatic sources, the daily said Baghdad will send a letter to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan demanding that any observers ensure the inspections were not spying missions.

The letter would also demand that "doctored findings of weapons of mass destruction" were not used to justify a US attack against Saddam's regime, the sources told the paper.

Iraq would insist that a large proportion of the delegation came from Europe, and that the United Nations not let the US administration veto its composition, the Independent added.

The Guardian daily reported that British Prime Minister Tony Blair has blocked a debate by his cabinet on whether Britain should join US-led military action against Iraq.

The paper said ministers had been told that any decisions were still a long way off when they had approached Blair privately to ask for a cabinet discussion of the issue.

Blair is Bush's closest ally in Europe on the Iraq question, despite opinion polls which suggest that a majority of Britons do not want British troops to join a US-led strike on Baghdad.



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"The Iraqis are ready to engage in a war against the United States and are determined to teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget,"

Iraq orders Baghdadis to stay put

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Aug 15, 2002 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- Iraqi authorities have ordered Baghdad residents to stay put and warned that their money and property will be confiscated if they leave the city without permission, according to a well-informed Iraqi Kurdish source.

The measures were taken, the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity, to prevent people fleeing the capital in anticipation of a U.S. military strike.

According to unconfirmed reports, government officials in Baghdad have been selling their properties and changing their Iraqi dinars for hard currency.

The new measures were also aimed at preventing people from avoiding being recruited into militias, such as the Popular Army, Saddam Forces and the Jerusalem Army, the source said.

Iraq orders Baghdadis to stay put

1 posted on 08/16/2002 7:27:32 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I think we should start pulling out of the area. Obviously we haven't got a chance against this elite Republican Guard.
2 posted on 08/16/2002 7:30:34 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: kattracks
Oooh, I'm sooooo scared...shakin' like a leaf on a tree

Saddam will be lucky to be alive a half hour into the war...he won't see the next day, unless he runs away before the shooting starts.

I can see him telling his stooges to let go the missles as he scurries into hiding somewhere far away.

3 posted on 08/16/2002 7:32:52 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: kattracks
Saddam Hussein has already taught the United States a lesson--not to merely drive mad men back into their holes. This team, this administration, will not let the mad man and his regime survive.
4 posted on 08/16/2002 7:35:32 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: kattracks
They vow to surrender with such speed and in numbers that will put the French to shame.
5 posted on 08/16/2002 7:35:45 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: kattracks
Uhhhmm, Let me guess it's going to be the "mother of all wars" right?
Sorry Saddam the mother of all wars might just be right around the corner ;But your just target practice.
6 posted on 08/16/2002 7:36:27 PM PDT by Rev. Lou Chenary
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To: kattracks
Contrast:
"The Iraqis are ready to engage in a war against the United States and are determined to teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget," the official Al-Iraq newspaper vowed Friday.
With:
Ath-Thawra, mouthpiece of the ruling Baath party in Baghdad, accused Washington of "adopting a policy of lies towards Iraq by making believe that the country produces weapons of mass destruction."

They lie. Either they do in fact produce weapons of mass destruction, or their threat to teach the US a lesson it will never forget is nothing but braggadocio without any substance behind it. I think prudence requires that we believe the former, and not the latter.

7 posted on 08/16/2002 7:37:07 PM PDT by sourcery
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To: sourcery
We need a pool on how long this mother of all wars will take for Iraq to vanquish us,,I will bet four days but it will be ugly. Who is the pool person here, we need to get started as I think it is coming soon or not at all.
8 posted on 08/16/2002 7:39:32 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: kattracks
Its time to Bagdaddy. No playing around like Israel has with the rat, go right to the head of the snake, and cut it off ASAP. This Iraq "war" should be much more like Panama and Afghanistan, where are primary focus was capturing or killing the leader, and nothing like any conventional war, including the last war against them. Thats the beauty of fighting a dictator. Once you take him out, the fighting is over. The key here is making sure we get decent people to take over and run the country, who can control their lust for power, and actually "love their fellow countrymen as themselves."



9 posted on 08/16/2002 7:58:43 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: kattracks
Lessons learned from the last Gulf War:

Dont bring too much stuff with you. Most will just rust, and wont see action.

Be prepared for the worst. Iraqis can surrender faster, and in greater numbers that even our allies, the French. Lots of food, water, and latrine facilities will be essential.

The main meat in the Iraqi diet (if they are lucky, or if lots of officers are captured)is lamb. Lamb causes B.O. big time! Have soap, handi-wipes, and deodorant on hand, and be prepared to teach the proper use of all three!

Dont believe anything they say. Period. End sentence!

If/when push comes to shove, God be with you!

Regards (with tongue firmly in cheek)

10 posted on 08/16/2002 8:00:55 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: SCHROLL
Even though this threat was not leveled against the French, they surrendered anyway.
11 posted on 08/16/2002 8:06:58 PM PDT by Davea
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To: kattracks
and are determined to teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget

maybe it's how to stir-fry a camel ... not too much ginger I would guess ...
12 posted on 08/16/2002 8:27:58 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: kattracks
"The Iraqis are ready to engage in a war against the United States and are determined to teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget,"

a lesson i will never forget...hmmmm...let's see:

iraq = idiotic rantings advocating quitting

did i pass???

13 posted on 08/16/2002 8:34:06 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: kattracks
eight-million-dollar grant for the Iraqi National Congress

Could we, just for once, NOT send US dollars overseas.

14 posted on 08/16/2002 8:34:07 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: kattracks
Sorry, sodom, we have heard this same song and dance before. But, please, call the tune and pay the piper anyway. This type of bravado will only allow our troops to sharpen their marksmanship skills for the next bunch of muslim buttholes. Is there something in the koran that teaches these misguided jackasses to talk as much junk as they humanly can?
15 posted on 08/16/2002 8:34:27 PM PDT by wasp69
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To: sourcery
You're right on the money. They either have weapons
of mass destruction, in which case Saddam's removal
is paramount, or they're lying in which case they can't
hurt us at all.
16 posted on 08/16/2002 8:36:20 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: kattracks
"The Iraqis are ready to [...] teach the Americans a lesson they will never forget," the official Al-Iraq newspaper vowed Friday.

I sure hope they have in mind teaching us how to properly make halvah, and not baklavah! We're semi OK with baklavah, but man, you can't find decent halvah anywhere around these parts.

17 posted on 08/16/2002 8:36:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: SamAdams76
I think we should start pulling out of the area. Obviously we haven't got a chance against this elite Republican Guard.

I was wondering. Let's say you had a large population of morons. Let's say the average IQ of this population was 45. If the top ten percent of the population had an IQ of 75, would they then be the "elite"?

18 posted on 08/16/2002 8:38:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: wasp69
Don't I recall a gaggle of Sodom's brave soldiers surrendering to an Italian television crew the last time around?

There's a joke in there somewhere but I'll let sharper wits than mine have at it. My dad was a lowly shavetail lieutenant in Italy 1943-44, and he tells the story of having to wait outside an Italian colonel's bivouac while the colonel shaved and put on his good uniform before he surrendered what was left of his regiment to my dad.

I hasten to add that dad has always said that the Italians individually were very brave men, they were doomed by bad leadership, bad planning, and incredibly bad equipment (such as the awful Carcano rifle and the Breda, possibly the single worst machine gun in the war).

19 posted on 08/16/2002 8:44:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: kattracks
A defiant Iraq warned the United States it would be taught a lesson it will never forget if it launched a military campaign against Saddam Hussein's regime, threats of which it said left the Iraqi people unbowed.

Saddam might have something he wants to use against relatively concentrated American troops.

"Statements and threats by American officials cannot terrorise the people of Iraq because their victory over the United States is guaranteed," the daily said.

It's not about terrorizing the Iraqi people. It's about removing and probably killing Saddam, Uday, and the rest of the murderous family.

"This is an evil man who, left to his own devices, will wreak havoc again on his own population, his neighbours and, if he gets weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them, all of us," she said.

Yep.

Quoting unnamed senior diplomatic sources, the daily said Baghdad will send a letter to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan demanding that any observers ensure the inspections were not spying missions.

The letter would also demand that "doctored findings of weapons of mass destruction" were not used to justify a US attack against Saddam's regime, the sources told the paper.

I don't think Kofi Annan is in a position to guarantee you anything. Unless he wants to put forces on the ground to protect you. Which of course, minus the United States, will leave you with Ghana's best.......

Blair is Bush's closest ally in Europe on the Iraq question, despite opinion polls which suggest that a majority of Britons do not want British troops to join a US-led strike on Baghdad.

So don't join then. Would be nice to have you along for the ride, but we don't need you.

20 posted on 08/16/2002 8:45:34 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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